I have a p0171 and a p0174 code...someone told me it is usually upper to lower intake gaskets? chuck
P0171 System too Lean (Bank 1)
P0174 System too Lean (Bank 2)
If a car has a check engine light on and has P0171 and P0174 codes stored, the most likely cause is a vacuum leak. These codes are set by the car’s computer when it sees too much oxygen in the exhaust. Excessive oxygen readings in the exhaust will set lean codes. This does not mean that the oxygen sensors are defective. It is a common mistake for people to replace oxygen sensors when lean codes are present. Just because the code is related to oxygen sensor readings, it doesn’t mean that the oxygen sensors are bad. If both of these codes are stored this means that both banks of the engine have excessive oxygen in the exhaust. If the oxygen sensors are replaced it’s most likely that the same codes will reappear. It is very uncommon for two oxygen sensors to fail at the same time.
Therefore the most likely cause of P0171 and P0174 codes is a vacuum leak. The source of a vacuum leak can be one of many things. The most common cause of a vacuum leak is a leaky hose. Vacuum hoses over time can become dry and brittle. The rubber deteriorates and can leak causing a vacuum loss. Many times a leaky vacuum hose can be found by listening for a hissing sound. A large vacuum leak can even make the car run rough at idle. In some cases it will not idle without feathering the gas pedal.
What is 'upper' to 'lower' intake gasket?... Instead, you should have specified that both P0171 and P0174 are indicative of 'LEAN' fuel mixture... right? for BOTH banks!... right? This code means there are multiple possible causes... agreed? vacuum leaks, faulty MASS AIR FLOW SENSOR... faulty MAP (manifold absolute pressure) sensor -- OR the wiring between them!.. .ya think? Check em out.
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it could be gasket, vacuum hose, or similar. = air leak
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