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GM 3800cc V6 USING A LOT OF COOLANT, APPROX. 2 LITRES EVERY 200MILES. NO EVIDENCE OF LEAKING HOSES OR RADIATOR. CANNOT FIND ANY EVIDENCE OF LEAKING ANWHERE IN ENGINE BAY

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Look at drivers side front,near ECT and also on driverside. On upper intake(plastic) GM designed it to fail internally (where u can't see it) to drink your coolant through a bypass. Replace the intake with DORMAN. Around 150 or so.

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My Nissan Sunny overheating n water finishing in the radiator tank,what could be the problem?

no year car told (age matters and miles)
not sure what finishing means at all. sorry #2
FLUSHING?
tell all evidence of over heating from a list.

  1. coolant on the ground
  2. explosive steam and coolant blasting to the top of the Radiator over flow bottle (plastic).
  3. coolant on front passengers toes leaking heater core or 2 hoses there leaking.
  4. dash gauge heat pegs
  5. radiator neck cap off each morning show missing coolant there.
  6. engine pings (knock/detonation) to hot.
  7. engine power drops lots. or even stalls.
  8. scans of PID name ECT shows temps from 225 to 265f, 50%AF antifreeze boils at 265f so that.
  9. see coolant under hood leak or spray or drip anywhere there,
  10. water pump drips or oozes.
the next is is bigger list true causes.
ask or get the car checked out at a real shop.
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Ifull the tank in the radiator but it will disaper but no leaking in the hose what would i do

If you are losing coolant then you have either an external or internal leak.
If you can find no indication of an external leak from the radiator, the radiator overflow tank, any of the hoses on the system or around the water pump fitting then you may well have an internal leak. Check the radiator overflow tank carefully and the hoses to it for any signs of external leakage.

An internal leak of coolant can be via a failed cylinder head gasket or a crack in the cylinder head or both. Coolant can then leak under pressure into the cylinders or into the engine's lubrication system and will then mix with the oil. Check the condition and colour of your oil for evidence of coolant contamination. Check your exhaust for a constant flow of white exhaust emissions which is evidence of coolant entering the combustion chamber.

If you have run the vehicle with the engine overheating this will generally cause failure of the cylinder head gasket and possibly a crack in the cylinder head.
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Why is my car loosing antifreeze

There can be numerous reasons for coolant loss.

External Coolant loss
1. Coolant escaping from the radiator cap. Replace the cap.

2. There is an external leak in the system which could be from a hole or crack in the radiator(especially the plastic sections) or a hole in a radiator hose or there is a loose hose connection.

3. The water pump gasket has deteriorated and coolant is escaping from around the water pump fitting.

4. There is a crack in the coolant overflow reservoir and coolant is leaking out.

Internal Coolant Loss
1. Coolant is escaping into the engine's cylinders in which event you will see white smoke coming out of the exhaust and you will also have combustion gasses leaking into the coolant passages which will cause bubbles and overheating of the coolant. This problem will be due to a failed cylinder head gasket, a crack in the cylinder head or both.

2. Coolant is escaping into the engine lubrication system and in that event you will see evidence of coolant in the engine oil. Pull the oil dipstick and check the condition of the oil. If it looks a bit like chocolate milk and not just normal oil colouring you have coolant in there. Also check the radiator cap when the engine is cold. There may also be evidence of oil in the radiator coolant that is stuck to the radiator cap and around the neck of the radiator.
This problem will also be due to a failed cylinder head gasket or a crack in the cylinder head or both.

Whatever the cause in your case don't hesitate to have it checked out by a competent professional If you lose coolant and you allow the level to run significantly lower than normal the engine will overheat and you will cause very expensive engine damage.
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Why do i have oil in my antifreeze

Transmission cooler inside the plastic parts of the radiator may be leaking and causing the oil to mix with the coolant. GM also has a problem with their lower intake gaskets leaking, which would allow the oil and coolant to mix. Last possibility is the head gasket is leaking and mixing the oil into the coolant side but not the other way. Check your transmission fluid for mixing evidence. Another thing to do is pressure test your cooling system (Radiator, hoses ect) to see if there is a leak. Another test to try out is compression.
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My Pontiac is leaking antifreeze from the breathing hose on the coolant tank, please help

I'm not completely clear on what you mean, but here are some things to check.
1. Check the hose from the radiator neck to the overflow tank for cracks or leaks. If it's leaking the tubing can be purchased at an auto parts store. It's very inexpensive.

2. If it's leaking a lot into the over fill tank this could be an indication that your radiator cap is leaking at the seal, allowing coolant to bypass the spring on the cap and through the hose into the coolant overflow tank. Replace the radiator cap, these are about $10.
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My 99 alero v6 is over heating not leaking ight mite be hoses or thermostat . or head gasket but when it overb heats the smoke comes from the top of the engine

REPLACE THERMOSTAT AND RADIATOR PRESSURE CAP.IF CAR OVER HEATING WHILE IN MOTION.MORE LIKELY ITS THE THERMOSTAT,LOW COOLANT IN RADIATOR OR COOLANT SYSTEM,BAD WATER PUMP,WATER PUMP WEEP HOLE IS LEAKING, WATER PUMP NEEDS REPLACING.CHECK ENGINE OIL,IF OIL LOOKS LIKE MILK SHAKE YOU HAVE LEAKING HEAD GASKET.IF CAR IN PARK AND OVER HEATS WHILE IN A LONG TRAFFIC LINE OR.BANK DRIVE THROUGH COOLANT FAN NOT TURNING ON, BECAUSE THE ENGINE COOLANT TEMPERATURE SENSOR FAULTY.CODE SCAN CAR FOR FAULTY COOLANT FAN RELAY OR FAULTY PCM. CHECK COOLANT FAN FUSE, AND HOT WIRE THE COOLANT FAN TO MAKE SURE ITS WORKING.IF COOLANT FAN DONT WORK WHEN HOT WIRED. COOLANT FAN NEEDS REPLACING. REPLACE BOTH RADIATOR HOSES, REPLACE THERMOSTAT AND RADIATOR PRESSURE CAP.BUY NEW COOLANT ADD 50/50 WATER AND COOLANT.IF ENGINE OIL HAS ANTIFREEZE IN IT.REPLACE ENGINE OIL AND OIL FILTER TO KEEP FROM LOCKING UP THE ENGINE.GET CAR FIX.DONT KEEP DRIVING IF IT KEEP OVER HEATING,ENGINE DAMAGE WILL OCCUR.I HOPE INFORMATION I GAVE YOU WILL FIX PROBLEM.PROBLEM COULD BE LEAKING RADIATOR HOSES BUT CHANGE THERMOSTAT THATS FIRST THING I WOULD CHANGE BECAUSE IF IT CLOSED, ENGINE WILL OVER HEAT AND CRACK CYLINDER HEAD OR CRACK PISTON, COOLANT NEED TO CIRCULATE THROUGH THE ENGINE TO TAKE AWAY THE HEAT FROM ENGINE.
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My 2005 Cobalt started running at 230 degrees and when I checked the coolant level there was none in the resevoir? Should I be worried about the engine being damage? I drove it for about 10 minutes...

You probably didn't sustain any major damage. You should be concerned about the loss of coolant. If there is no evidence of a leak where you park then it;s possible you could have a leak that only happens with the engine running. Being a late model GM car, it uses a coolant called DexCool. It is pink in color and is known to cause deterioration of certain gasket materials. In particular, the upper intake plenum gasket. These leaks are difficult to find. With the engine running, use a bright flashlight and look for coolant puddling around the edges of the intake plenum. Also check your radiator and heater hoses for pinhole leaks that could open up when the coolant gets hot. Be sure and keep a close eye on your coolant level until you find out if you have a leak.
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Loosing antifreeze

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WHERE COOLANT LEAKS OCCUR
Coolant leaks can occur anywhere in the cooling system. Nine out of ten times, coolant leaks are easy to find because the coolant can be seen dripping, spraying, seeping or bubbling from the leaky component. Open the hood and visually inspect the engine and cooling system for any sign of liquid leaking from the engine, radiator or hoses. The color of the coolant may be green, orange or yellow depending on the type of antifreeze in the system. The most common places where coolant may be leaking are:
Water pump -- A bad shaft seal will allow coolant to dribble out of the vent hole just under the water pump pulley shaft. If the water pump is a two-piece unit with a backing plate, the gasket between the housing and back cover may be leaking. The gasket or o-ring that seals the pump to the engine front cover on cover-mounted water pumps can also leak coolant. Look for stains, discoloration or liquid coolant on the outside of the water pump or engine.

Radiator -- Radiators can develop leaks around upper or loser hose connections as a result of vibration. The seams where the core is mated to the end tanks is another place where leaks frequently develop, especially on aluminum radiators with plastic end tanks. On copper/brass radiators, leaks typically occur where the cooling tubes in the core are connected or soldered to the core headers. The core itself is also vulnerable to stone damage. Internal corrosion caused by old coolant that has never been changed can also eat through the metal in the radiator, causing it to leak.

Most cooling systems today are designed to operate at 8 to 14 psi. If the radiator can't hold pressure, your engine will overheat and lose coolant.

Hoses -- Cracks, pinholes or splits in a radiator hose or heater hose will leak coolant. A hose leak will usually send a stream of hot coolant spraying out of the hose. A corroded hose connection or a loose or damaged hose clamp may also allow coolant to leak from the end of a hose. Sometimes the leak may only occur once the hose gets hot and the pinhole or crack opens up.

Freeze plugs -- These are the casting plugs or expansion plugs in the sides of the engine block and/or cylinder head. The flat steel plugs corroded from the inside out, and may develop leaks that are hard to see because of the plug's location behind the exhaust manifold, engine mount or other engine accessories. On V6 and V8 blocks, the plugs are most easily inspected from underneath the vehicle.

Heater Core -- The heater core is located inside the heating ventilation and air conditioning (HVAC) unit under the dash. It is out of sight so you cannot see a leak directly. But if the heater core is leaking (or a hose connection to the heater core is leaking), coolant will be seeping out of the bottom of the HVAC unit and dripping on the floor inside the passenger compartment. Look for stains or wet spots on the bottom of the plastic HVAC case, or on the passenger side floor.

Intake Manifold gasket -- The gasket that seals the intake manifold to the cylinder heads may leak and allow coolant to enter the intake port, crankcase or dribble down the outside of the engine. Some engines such as General Motors 3.1L and 3.4L V6 engines as well as 4.3L, 5.0L and 5.7L V8s are notorious for leaky intake manifold gaskets. The intake manifold gaskets on these engines are plastic and often fail at 50,000 to 80,000 miles. Other troublesome applications include the intake manifold gaskets on Buick 3800 V6 and Ford 4.0L V6 engines.

INTERNAL COOLANT LEAKS
There are the worst kind of coolant leaks for two reasons. One is that they are impossible to see because they are hidden inside the engine. The other is that internal coolant leaks can be very expensive to repair.

Bad head gasket --Internal coolant leaks are most often due to a bad head gasket. The head gasket may leak coolant into a cylinder, or into the crankcase. Coolant leaks into the crankcase dilute the oil and can damage the bearings in your engine. A head gasket leaking coolant into a cylinder can foul the spark plug, and create a lot of white smoke in the exhaust. Adding sealer to the cooling system may plug the leak if it is not too bad, but eventually the head gasket will have to be replaced.

If you suspect a head gasket leak, have the cooling system pressure tested. If it fails to hold pressure, there is an internal leak. A "block tester" can also be used to diagnose a leaky head gasket. This device draws air from the cooling system into a chamber that contains a special blue colored leak detection liquid. Combustion gases will react with the liquid and cause it to change color from blue to green if the head gasket is leaking.

Head gasket failures are often the result of engine overheating (which may have occurred because of a coolant leak elsewhere in the cooling system, a bad thermostat, or an electric cooling fan not working). When the engine overheats, thermal expansion can crush and damage portions of the head gasket. This damaged areas may then start to leak combustion pressure and/or coolant.

Cracked Head or Block -- Internal coolant leaks can also occur if the cylinder head or engine block has a crack in a cooling jacket. A combustion chamber leak in the cylinder head or block will leak coolant into the cylinder. This dilutes the oil on the cylinder walls and can damage the piston and rings. If the coolant contains silicates (conventional green antifreeze), it can also foul the oxygen sensor and catalytic converter. If enough coolant leaks into the cylinder (as when the engine is sitting overnight), it may even hydro-lock the engine and prevent it from cranking when you try to start it. Internal leaks such as these can be diagnosed by pressure testing the cooling system or using a block checker.

A coolant leak into the crankcase is also bad news because it can damage the bearings. Coolant leaking into the crankcase will make the oil level on the dipstick appear to be higher than normal. The oil may also appear frothy, muddy or discolored because of the coolant contamination.

Leaky ATF oil cooler -- Internal coolant leakage can also occur in the automatic transmission fluid oil cooler inside the radiator. On most vehicles with automatic transmissions, ATF is routed through an oil cooler inside the radiator. If the tubing leaks, coolant can enter the transmission lines, contaminate the fluid and ruin the transmission. Red or brown drops of oil in the coolant would be a symptom of such a leak. Because the oil cooler is inside the radiator, the radiator must be replaced to eliminate the problem. The transmission fluid should also be changed.

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Leaking coolant checked radiator hoses and

take a look at the waterpump, these cars have problems with waterpump leaking, take caution, the waterpump is driven by the timing belt,if that belt pops or jumps due to coolant leaking on it and causing it to fail,then you will have a costly repair,i belive its about $4,000 to fix, it will cause cylinder head valves to bent, have this coolant leak check asap.
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Isuzu rodeo leaking coolant from engine

with my experiance on these engines it's usually the upper outlet hoses running from the heads into a t then into the upper radiator hose they are pain to replace but 3 out of 3 of my v6 isuzu's have had the same problem you'll have to pull off the theromstat and the coil pack the hoses are very small and run from the end of the heads one on each into a t then into the radiator hose just under the housing
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