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Kenneth Cadman Posted on Dec 05, 2015
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2.4l Why are there recurrent DTCs?

I replaced the cranksensor and both cam sensor's and light came back on. I replaced the timing chain and tensioner and all the guide. Still have codes

  • Jim Dec 05, 2015

    Hi Kenneth Cadman, I want to help you with your question, but I need more information from you. Can you please add details in the comment box?
    What codes do you have?

  • Kenneth Cadman Dec 05, 2015

    P0010 p0017 p0010 p0017

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There are recurrent fault codes because the diagnosis of the cause or causes of the problem was, in part, incorrect and because many people work on the basis that........
XXXX code = replace part ABC
YYYY code = replace part DEF.

Pulling up fault codes and then replacing parts without a proper diagnosis of the cause of problems is not sound practice. The items you replaced may indeed have needed replacing but this does not mean that there are no other issues that need to be addressed.
Misdiagnosing problems, replacing functioning parts and then wondering why the warning lights and fault codes are still being generated is not uncommon practice.

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SOURCE: cam & crank sensor code intermitten spark 2.4

check timing marks on cam sprocket,could be one tooth 'retarded'.

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SOURCE: my guides and tesioner broke for my timing on my

you should go ahead and replace it as well

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SOURCE: i replaced the water pump

make sure you can turn engine over by the crank bolt this will make sure engine is free and not bound up. if it will turn then check wiring at starter make sure everything is tight.

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SOURCE: I have a 1999 Pontiac Grandam that is pulling code

P0300 is a generic misfire code, it doesn't specify a cylinder (eg. P0301 cylinder #1, P0304 cylinder #4). Therefore its not likely realted to one cylinder like a plug, coil or one fuel injector, likely something related to all cylinders, possibly a bad 02 sensor reading (most likely), a fuel pressure regulator, low fuel pressure or partially plugged fuel filter. Change the fuel filter cheapest and easiest, then look into 02 sensor.

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  • Posted on Aug 27, 2011

SOURCE: installing a hydraulic tensioner for the timing

check it with vehicle running. for it works by hydraulics under pressure. try it ! good-day!!

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