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Why is Mazda Miata stumbling and missing after reaching closed loop?

My Miata was missing intermittently. I replaced coil packs,spark plugs,wires. the miss went away. then a code came up indicating cat convertor wasn't functioning. I replaced it,along with both O2 sensors. the crank and cam position sensors have also been replaced. fuel pressure is perfect,btw

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Check compression. After spark and fuel, compression is next on older cars.

Testimonial: "I will;doubtful,since car only has 45K on it. it runs smoothly for the first few minutes until emissions goes into closed loop."

  • Randy Ohler Jul 18, 2015

    Then don't. Closed loop is electrical problems. Check grounds. Main three are battery to body, battery to engine and engine to body. Yours is most likely a fuel pump to ground problem. Could also be a ECM ground problem. Seems you have a scanner? If so. Watch the ECM ground when it goes to closed loop. If it jumps up, check the wire for the ECM ground and engine to body ground. ECM grounds at the body.

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  • other symptoms may also be present.
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  • other symptoms may also be present

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SymptomsSymptoms may include:
  • the engine may be harder to start
  • the engine may stumble / stumble, and/or hesitate
  • other symptoms may also be present
CausesA code P0302 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
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  • Running out of fuel
  • Poor compression
  • Defective computer
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Coil pack keeps going bad,

Your problem sounds like an intermittent short in the power feed to the coil pack from the EEC module
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