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Anonymous Posted on Apr 22, 2010

Have reassembled the Brewing unit - am now getting Malfunction 8

Have dismantled and reassembled the Brewing unit on a Jura F90 - it seems that lots of machines share this same unit inside. It's not a job for the faint-hearted. It had done 10,000 cups and was leaking coffee into the waste box. A fresh O ring and a lot of cleaning has the mechanism working smoothly as (I think) it ought - but maybe not. The optosensor that senses the up/down position of the brewing unit seems good. However when it's switched on the mechanism is not synchronising and it will go all up or all down and show Malfunction 8. Any ideas what's been missed would be much appreciated. eg does anything else sense the position of the drive? Is there more than one way to reassemble the brewing unit? Please help as we are now several weeks without a coffee.

  • Anonymous Apr 30, 2010

    Has anyone advice on how to reassemble a Jura Brewing Unit correctly? Any tips for getting it right?

    The brewing unit is the central part with a large gear. Many Jura machines (and some other brands like AEG; Krups) share the exact same brewing engine).



  • Anonymous May 06, 2010

    I hope this Jura F90 dismantling guide may offer some clues for your E-series machine

    Before you start remind yourself of the risks. In case of a mess up, below I've listed a firm selling spares in Europe. In the UK it is assumed that it you can afford the BMW of coffee machines, you can afford to fix and service it too. However I haven't tried any of the UK firms so they, and yours could be really, really helpful and cheap.

    You will need a various torx; hexagonal and possibly unique screwdriver bits to remove all screws. A plastic pry tool (used for mobile phones) will help where plastic lugs hold on the side and top panel.
    Empty beans; water store and remove the waste tray. On the Jura F90 use pliers to undo two oval headed screws at the back at the top. You'll be able to remove the top panel after using a pry tool to disconnect two lugs at the front edge.

    You don't want to dismantle the coffee grinder and its hopper. Retain the hopper's rubber seals or glue them in place before you lose them as I did. Four screws hold the central back panel. Slide out a white key underneath the machine (can't recall how crucial this was).
    The side panels are removed by using a pry tool to release lugs all down the edge where these panels meet the front. Work slowly to manoeuvre the side panels off. If you simply want to clean the brewing unit externally then just remove the panel on the water side.

    Find the water inlet just where the water tank sits. A screw here allows you to remove a plastic piece - but take a photo of how it slots in. This gives access to the lower end of the brewing unit. If the plastic piece is still it the way, you can ease off the water pipe from the water inlet and put it aside.

    A number of different brands are made by one firm and branded. Thus the guts of these machines are similar. The brewing unit in the Jura F90 is almost identical in many machines. The screws and attachment places are different. The water inlet and valve are different. Cleaning the parts you can now see may fix a Malfunction 8 without removing and dismantling the brewing unit. The machine is partly operable in this state - cover the exposed electrical connections and remind yourself of the danger here. Thus you can switch off the power when the brewing unit's white wheel is at the top and then at the bottom. In this way you will get access to places causing any jam. You might just need to clear the inner chamber and path for two plungers with two large O-rings. You can see the water inlet nozzle with its o-ring which can perish and cause coffee or water to go to waste. Silicone grease only where the O-rings slide. Leave the other plastic parts ungreased. As I said you might get away with not disassembling the brewing unit. You can however buy a maintenance kit or a new brewing unit from the shop below.


    You will want to avoid removing the nylon water pipes - unless they're actually leaking. These pipes are held in place with a wire clip (remove with a flat head screwdriver). Ease the nylon pipe with its brass collar out of its socket. The pipe goes into an O-ring in the pipe's socket - this might fall out.

    Removing a brewing unit is like removing a car engine. The link at the shop below has a pdf (Anleitung_Jura_E.pdf) There is no need to force anything. On the Jura F90 the brewing unit is removed by undoing two obscure screws from the coffee grinder side. I had difficulty removing these and I wish I had taken time to find the right tool instead of wearing down the screwhead.
    On the electronic side there's an optosensor (encoder) unit held in place with a steel clip. You might remove this to access one of the two screws. At the bottom of the brewing unit, the water inlet valve is fixed to the machine with a single screw. Next, on the water tank side, you'll see two lines of screws that hold the assembly in place. The middle screws of the screws allow you to separate the unit from the gears. The top two holes don't have screws.

    Coffee machine spare part supplies are not as common in the UK as they are in mainland Europe. You'll find this web useful because of the pictures: www.kaffeemaschinendoctor.de is a German web shop for machine spares AND there's a pictorial of how to dismantle the Jura F90 as a pdf. Google will almost translate it). Juradoctor.de also carry lots of spares but don't seem to ship to my country.

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Oh dear that is too long without a coffee ;-( I was wondering if you could share your knowledge on how to dismantle the Jura coffee machine, i have a E85 and i need to remove old coffee sludge that is causing my problems. do i remove the back of machine?

  • Anonymous May 09, 2010

    THANKYOU so very much for replying - and sorry for late reply I have been away from computer. The very next morning upon looking at coffee machine it wouldn't even turn on ;-( so I think it is well beyond my fixing abilities and will have to send it off to the experts. Again I thankyou and hopefully your reply will assist others in need.

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