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Shelley Cross Posted on Jan 10, 2014
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Upper thread looping around bobbin

Every time the needle goes down, instead of passing over the top of the bobbin to make a loop, it passes just underneath the top of the bobbin, therby looping around the bobbin. The bobbin is loaded according to the manual, and the top thread is threaded properly, but the problem still occurs, even with no fabric.

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Make sure your needle is positioned correctly? not too high and not too low.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 17, 2008

SOURCE: Not picking up the Bobbin thread

I cleaned the machine good with canned air, oiled it. I took out the bobbin case and cleaned it good also. I then noticed the tension screw on the bobbin case was loose, tightened it and the problem was fixed.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Mar 07, 2009

SOURCE: Not picking up the Bobbin thread

Sounds like you have to take off the throat plate and clean out threads under it.  Sometime they ball up and prevent the needle from going down and catching the bobbin thread. You can't see themuntil you take off the plate.  Follow the directions.  It is easy.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Apr 14, 2009

SOURCE: Thread looping on top and bottom of fabric

hi! there,
on this condition,you can avoid wasting time and material try on this, the problem is your set up of tension thats why.,but you should follow upper theading. see figure,c978815.jpgthis just sample of exact threading,next bobbins set up see fig.the thread should be clockwise rotation on winder5a00a72.jpgfollow this set up,and upon inserting be sure
you have clean feed dogs and shuttle race free from fabrics and threads chips.set dial tension to #3 to #4 and stitch dial to #12.then try this set.and you can watch on you tube sewing. try this stuff on internet address type www.youtube.com then on search box type sewing machine,have enjoy and have a nice day.don't forget to rate me,

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 24, 2009

SOURCE: looping underneath

I watched a 'You Tube' demo that showed ........if you loosen or tighten the very small screw at the base of the bobbin this gives you the correct tension & stops the looping under the fabric........I didn't even know this screw existed ! It is trial & era at first re the correct tension but you do get there.... the art is to do it in small mini stages.....like you hardly move it ! Thanks to 'You Tube' I can now get on and finish my drapes !

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 26, 2010

SOURCE: Singer 301a...sews on top of fabric

This is a tension adjustment problem. It's good to use two different colors of thread, like you did. From your description, the top thread (needle thread) tension needs to be tighter. As you tighten the tension of the top thread, you'll see that the top thread pulls the bobbin thread up into the fabric so it's no longer laying loose on the bottom of the fabric.

You'll need to have the pressure foot down when you tighten the tension. Tighten it a little, sew a practice seam, check to see what the stitch looks like. Tighten it a little more, sew, check, etc etc--until both top and bottom look the same--you shouldn't see much (if any) of the bobbin thread color on top of the fabric or the top thread color on the underside.

Let me know how this works for you, ok?


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I'm getting an E2 error message on a Singer 8768 Heritage model.. Re-doing bobbin and bobbin placement but still getting the message.
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How to Fix Code E2 on Singer Fashion Mate Sewing Machine 7256 eHow

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The Singer 7256 Fashion Mate sewing machine has a top drop-in thread bobbin and an automatic needle threader. The digital display on the side of the machine is used to select different stitch settings on the machine. When the display reads error code E2, it means that there is a bobbing threading error, which may be caused by the thread looping or bunching under the fabric as you sew.

Things You'll Need

  • Pen
  • Screwdriver
  • Push the bobbin-winding spindle of the sewing machine back to the left.
  • Turn the hand-wheel toward you, hold the needle thread (thread on the sewing machine needle) and tug it lightly as the needle goes down and then raises up. A small loop will raise up through the needle plate on the sewing machine. Use the tip of a pen to lift the loop up through to the back of the machine.
  • Check the position of the needle. It should be seated in the sewing machine with the flat side facing the back of the machine. If it is not, remove the needle and reinsert it so that it is facing the correct way.
  • Remove the bobbin case. Use a screwdriver to turn the screw on the side of the bobbin until the loops of thread pull taught and are removed.
  • Remove any loose fibers or threads that may be stuck in the tension disks.
  • Reset the upper tension disks. Raise the presser foot lever up. Put the tension setting of the sewing machine on setting "4." Hold onto the spool of thread in your right hand and with your left, route the thread down through the tension channel, around the bottom of the disk and up the other side. When done correctly, the thread will click into place and slip in between the tension disks.
  • Set the thread bobbin in the bobbin case, with the thread passing over the top of the bobbin and then down to the right. Route the thread through the notch located at the left of the bobbin case and pull it through. Move the thread over the top of the throat plate and over to the back of the machine.
Tips & Warnings
  • Using incorrect bobbins may cause error E2 to occur. Not all plastic bobbins are the same size, so check the model number of the bobbin to ensure that you are using the correct one with your sewing machine.

  • Never turn the hand-wheel on the sewing machine away from you, as it will change the timing on the sewing machine.
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Dec 05, 2016 • Singer Heritage 8768 Electronic Sewing...
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Most of the time the bobbin stitch is correct. Occasionally there is a loop in the bobbin thread. Any suggestions as to what this could be?
Is it actually the bobbin thread that loops or is the loop appearing on the underside of the fabric as you stitch? If it is a loop under the fabric, that's usually an indication it is an upper thread issue. Thread irregularities that appear on the topside of the fabric are generally bobbin related.

First thing to try is installing a brand new needle. Verify it is the correct needle for the fabric and thread being used.
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Sometimes, the fabric being stitched will "grab" the thread and hold it for a second before releasing and will cause a loop. In this case, a needle with a larger scarf and eye may be helpful.

You might also open the upper tension as much as possible, RAISE the presser foot and run a piece of UNwaxed dental floss through the tension disk a few times to clear out any gunk that may be stuck there. A piece of pearl cotton dipped in rubbing alcohol and squeezed moist/dry will also work.

Remove the upper thread. RAISE the presser foot and rethread the top thread from the beginning. Use only fresh, good quality thread--NO old or bargain bin variety! Try using the same thread in the top and bobbin. Make sure the thread is firmly seated in the tension disk and the thread path is correct. Check that there are no burrs or snags in the thread path that could be catching the upper thread. Especially, check that the thread is not catching on the spool "slit" that holds the thread when in storage. Every time the thread navigates around the thread spool, it could be catching on that slit just enough to cause a loop.

Try changing the bobbin. There could be something amiss with the current bobbin--could be nicked or could even be the wrong bobbin for the machine. Also, make sure the bobbin is loaded and turning the correct direction in the machine.

Set the upper tension to the midway point. This is usually the starting point, although it will probably require some tweaking. Test your stitch and adjust the tension so the upper and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric. Neither thread should dominate one side of the fabric or the other.

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Last thing to try is a different presser foot.

If you still have the intermittent loop, you might want to take it for service. Could be a problem within the tension disk.
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Why won't my sl370 work?
Hello Mary.
By the question, it looks like the lower looper is making loops? If so, check that you are using the correct needles for your serger and that the needle or needles is/are inserted correctly:
- needles must be all the way up into the needle shaft
- needles must face with the flat side to the back and the groove to the front
- use at least needle size 12/80, not smaller

Check these few items, if the loops are still not forming:
- re-thread the serger from the start, keeping in mind to thread in the proper sequence (upper looper, lower looper, needles)
- make sure that the lower looper thread lays on top of the upper looper thread and is passed to the back of the serger and then under the presser foot when threading
- make sure that the thread are securely engaged IN the tension assembly
- make sure that the serger is set for 3-thread or 4-thread overlock (i.e. that the upper looper converter is not engaged)
- check all tension setting
- stitch length should be around 2.5 - 3.5

Let me know how it goes.
Happy serging!
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Singer 8734 :my thread is bunching up under the fabric. How do I adjust the bobbin?
If the thread is bunching up, it sounds to me like the stitch isn't being formed properly. Nothing to do with the bobbin, more a case of timing.
The spike, or whatever it is on your machine, which is under the needle, must pass through the loop in the thread from the needle at exactly the right time.
When the needle reaches it's lowest point, as it starts to go upwards again,a loop is formed in the thread,next to the needle eye. This loop is what the spike must pass through in order to make the stitch.
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Hello. What you have described presents a large number of possibilities. What I can tell you is this; A sewing machine that uses a bobbin is known as a lock stitch sewing machine. On a basic lock stitch machine, two threads are used to make the stitch - the needle thread and the bobbin thread. In order for the stitch to be made, the bobbin and it's thread are passed through a loop in the needle thread, or more accurately, the needle thread must pass a loop around the bobbin and it's thread, after which the loop is pulled back in and up, taking the bobbin thread with it right up to the underside of the fabric and securely holding it there and the process is repeated, many times over in the blink of an eye. The bobbin, weather placed in a case first or or set directly into, has a place in the center of a rotating hook, which can be oriented in either a vertical or horizontal position. It is the sharp, pointy hook that grabs the needle thread above the eye of the needle and loops the needle thread around the bobbin and it's thread. In less than one full rotation of the hook the needle thread is picked up, looped around the bobbin, and pulled back off of the hook, taking with it the bobbin thread and pulling it up tight to the bottom of the fabric. The process is then repeated, many times over in the blink of an eye. For a sewing machine to function correctly, every aspect of the process must be right, and if any part of the process is not spot-on, failure occurs. Process failure ranges in severity from one stitch out of a thousand skipped to catastrophic breakage of the machine and it's parts. I'm sorry I don't know of a White repair shop in your area. I am new to FixYa, so I'm not sure if it is appropriate to offer my services, but I think it is okay to give you my number if you want to call me. It is 574-808-9613.
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While I was sewing the machine stopped properly threading, so I tried rethreading and checking bobbin tension, but it looks like the needle is just not reaching the bobbin, so it is missing the bobbin...
Have you changed your needle? If so do a visual check on the bobbin case area.

-With the bobbin door open, so you can see the bobbin case, turn the hand wheel towards you and you should see the needle come down and the top thread catch and loop around the bobbin thread and pull both to the top.

-If if is not, it is going to be your hook to needle timing or clearance.

When the needle is on the up movement, the hook should pass right above the eye of the needle.

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The thread after sewing just pulls right out won't sew
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OK...I have an old singer (from 1964) so I am not sure whether you can do this...

I thread the upper thread as directed.

I stick the bobbin in the bobbin assembly as directed.

LEAVING THE SLIDE DOOR OPEN...I, by hand turn the wheel on the right hand of the machine counter clockwise (towards me). I want the needle go down. The thread from the upper part will enter the bobbin area and will form a loop that goes OVER the top of your bobbin to catch the thread from the bottom.

I keep turning until the machine has complete a cycle where the needle has started from the highest point, dropped to the lowest point (thus forming the loop that passes over the bobbin) and returns back to the highest point).

At this point you will notice that the thread is coming for from the bottom of the machine..I use a scissor to pull the the ends of the thread through. To the top. There should be two ends, one from the top thread, one from the bottom. If you dont believe me..jsut use a bobbin with a different color of thread...you will see what I mean..there will be two threads...one the first color and one the second color.

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DO NOT RESET THE TIMING!! The timing is off on maybe 1 in 100 modern Husqvarna machines. For the user to change the timing is turning a simple fix into a complicated and expensive fix.
If the top thread is "looping up on the bottom" then you have a problem with the tension on the top thread. Here is what to check:
1. Thread the machine all the way through the eye of the needle. Don't go under the foot.
2. Pull the tread to the side. While pulling, lower the presser foot. You should see the needle bend as the thread gets tight. If not, you have no tension on the top thread.
3. With the bobbin in the case, hold the needle thread and turn the handwheel to bring the thread up. Watch through the cover to see if the thread passes over the bobbin from left to right. When it gets to the right side, the take up lever should pull the slack out and the thread should be pulled up. If it comes part way across but does not pull up, make sure the thread is in the take up lever. If you never see the thread, remove the bobbin case and turn the hand wheel. You should be able to see the hook pass behind the needle while the eye is still below the level of the hook. If the eye is above the hook as it passes the needle from right to left, then and only then consider timing the machine. If the hook passes above the eye but doesn't catch the thread (bobbin case out, needle plate on, presser foot down) you probably have a problem with your needle. Put in a new needle and make sure that the flat side is to the back.
99% of the time when a Husqvarna is not picking up the bobbin thread, something simple has been overlooked. Your symptom of looping on the back of the fabric indicate either a threading or tension issue in most cases, not timing.
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