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Posted on Mar 17, 2017

Instrument panel backlighting not working

I replaced the factory radio with a SONY radio and afterwards the dash instrument cluster dimmable background lights do not work. I suspect it is related to the fact that 2 wires (labeled "illumination +" and "illumination -") which went to the old radio were not needed for the new one, so I capped/stowed them. Perhaps this is a "series circuit" that needs to be uninterrupted? Based on that assumption I pulled the new radio and checked the voltage across those two illumination wires, but it was negligible (millivolts on my digital meter). Then I checked continuity with ground and found that both wires were grounded. Hmmm, this is mysterious. I could not find any blown fusable links for the lighting system.

  • ed333 Feb 15, 2009

    I have the same problem and I don't see any replies. Did you get an answer?

  • drowmonster1 May 01, 2009

    i have the same problem. i have a 1998 s-10 and i even put the stock radio back in and still not dash lights..

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SOURCE: Sonata 2005 flat battery caused

Check the radio and the starter - both are the only ones that are connected directly to the battery and the only ones that can draw so much current. The starter is the most likely one to have failed.

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  1. Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
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    • check the connections to the vehicle.
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Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
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  1. If an obvious cause for an observed or reported concern is found, correct he cause (if possible) before proceeding to the next step.
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Symptom Chart
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
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  • Circuitry
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  • The instrument cluster illumination is inoperative
  • Circuitry
  • Instrument cluster
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  • Climate control panel
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Visual Inspection Chart Electrical
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  1. If an obvious cause for an observed or reported concern is found, correct the cause (if possible) before proceeding to the next step.
  1. If the cause is not visually evident, connect the diagnostic tool to the data link connector (DLC) and select the vehicle to be tested from the diagnostic tool menu. If the diagnostic tool does not communicate with the vehicle:
  • check that the program card is correctly installed.
  • check the connections to the vehicle.
  • check the ignition switch position.
  1. If the diagnostic tool still does not communicate with the vehicle, refer to the diagnostic tool operating manual.
  1. Carry out the diagnostic tool data link test. If the diagnostic tool responds with:
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  • No response/not equipped for SJB, refer to Section 419-10 .
  • System passed, retrieve and record the continuous diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs), erase the continuous DTCs, and carry out the self-test diagnostics for the SJB.
  1. If the DTCs retrieved are related to the concern, go to the Smart Junction Box (SJB) Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index.
  1. If no DTCs related to the concern are retrieved, GO to Symptom Chart .
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    • Fuse
    • Smart junction box (SJB)
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    • The instrument cluster illumination is inoperative
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      • If the audio unit illumination does not operate correctly, REFER to Section 418-00 to continue diagnosis of the communications network.
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    • CHECK the instrument cluster illumination for correct operation.
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  • Hazard switch
  • Rear defroster switch
  • Message center switches
  • Parking aid switch (if equipped)
  • Transmission range selector
  • Fog lamp switch
The non-dimmable backlighting components are:
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  • Passenger front door lock and power window control switch
  • Driver rear door power window control switch
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  1. Verify the customer concern.
  1. Visually inspect the following for obvious signs of mechanical or electrical damage.

    Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
    • Instrument panel dimmer switch
    • Smart junction box (SJB) fuse(s):
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      • 15 (30A)
    • Circuitry
    • Illumination bulbs
    • Instrument cluster
    • SJB
    1. If an obvious cause for an observed or reported concern is found, correct the cause (if possible) before proceeding to the next step.
    1. NOTE: Make sure to use the latest scan tool release software.
      If the cause is not visually evident, connect the scan tool to the data link connector (DLC).
    1. NOTE: The vehicle communication module (VCM) LED prove-out confirms power and ground from the DLC are provided to the VCM.
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      • Check the VCM connection to the vehicle.
      • Check the scan tool connection to the VCM.
      • Refer to Section 418-00 , No Power To The Scan Tool, to diagnose no communication with the scan tool.
    1. If the scan tool does not communicate with the vehicle:
      • Verify the ignition key is in the ON position.
      • Verify the scan tool operation with a known good vehicle.
      • Refer to Section 418-00 to diagnose no response from the powertrain control module (PCM).
    1. Carry out the network test.
      • If the scan tool responds with no communication for one or more modules, refer to Section 418-00 .
      • If the network test passes, retrieve and record the continuous memory DTCs.
    1. Clear the continuous DTCs and carry out the self-test diagnostics for the instrument cluster.
    1. If the DTCs retrieved are related to the concern, go to the Instrument Cluster Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) Index. For all other DTCs, refer to Section 419-10 .
    1. If no DTCs related to the concern are retrieved, GO to Symptom Chart .
Symptom Chart Condition Possible Sources Action
  • One or more module-controlled illumination source(s) is inoperative
  • Circuitry
  • Inoperative illumination source component
  • Go To Pinpoint Test A .
A2 CHECK VOLTAGE TO THE INOPERATIVE ILLUMINATION SOURCE
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  • Disconnect: Inoperative Illumination Source Connector.
  • Key in ON position.
  • Place the headlamp switch in the PARKING LAMPS ON position.
  • Measure the voltage between the inoperative illumination source, harness side and ground according to the following table:

    Illumination Source Connector- Pin Circuit Rear window defrost switch C2340-3 19 (LB/RD) Hazard flasher switch C2039-8 19 (LB/RD) Parking aid disable switch C2339-3 19 (LB/RD) Message center INFO switch C269a-3 19 (LB/RD) Message center SET switch C269b-3 19 (LB/RD) Transmission range selector C2096-4 19 (LB/RD) Fog lamp switch C2341-3 19 (LB/RD)
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    Visual Inspection Chart Mechanical Electrical
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