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Black smoke from exhaust and engine puttering

Took car to dealership (bad move) said it was the rear oxygen sensor. spent $362 to replace it. the sensor did not solve the problem. the dealer wants to "try" several other replacements. but not on my checkbook will I be paying for their guessing games. help!

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    Marvin May 11, 2010

    if the dealer said the part would fix it and it didn't, and you didn't make them stand by the repair and fix the car then you need to step up to the plate and insist they fix it. U provide no useful info for me to help.

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U have to sew the dealer for that. every body knows that f thers black smoke from the exaust then ur burning engine oil with the fuel and that could be cos of worn out piston rings or the pistons.

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Black smoke is caused by oil burning in the engine. Not 02 sensor. You may have worn oil piston rings, overfilled oil, faulty oil pump, I would first recommend a bottle of the smoke away or stop burn

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no. (but the isc valves loves to stick but will not cause black smoke)
the 4.0L is one of 5 million made, it's well known,
the black smoke don't lie. it's rich and the cat seems burned up too.
as with black smoke the cat will try to catalyze all that and glow red hot. is your cat missing?>
so why not believe the code 171, its real and is catastrophic failure. there are 2 engines here, FED and California.(exhaust)
(2 different exhausts and sensors there.
as they say, fix what is OBVIOUSLY bad, 171
(find why using tools or inspections)
Fuel System Lean (Bank 1)in most cases the exhaust is cracked near B1S1 0xy sensor
this causes it to stick at 0volts, (lies) and the PCM sees that obvious lie then goes rich. (limphome rich)
if the pcm cant measure oxygen, it must now guess at fuel trim.(bad that.)
it goes rich, so you dont melt pistons running lean.
(by design)

bad front oxygen sensor (aka , up stream bank 1)
in calif cars, it can have a split exhaust on the I6 and have 3 sensors. (hope not yours, do look..)
most have 2 sensor, front and the useless behind cat sensor(B1s2)
S2 is useless for running mix, the rear is for smog test the cat.

so it rich, and now misfires. and the spark tips are black.
and it misfires to bad it can even idle, sure. (Drops)
the cause, is too rich.
the 171 means the PCM sees it stuck at 0v forEVER.

there are in fact other causes.
but these 2 are top cause.

on all 3 of my 4.0L engines
the exhaust manifold cracked on the under side.
side facing block. (i use a hose to ear to hear the putt putt puts, (with FULL PPE protection from burns from a dead cold engine.) ask how.
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make sure they are plugged in tight Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P2270 Category: Powertrain Definition: O2 Sensor Signal Biased/Stuck Lean Bank 1 Sensor 2Note: This definition of P2270 is applied to all manufacturers

P2270 - O2 Sensor Signal Biased/Stuck Lean Bank 1 Sensor 2 Comments ' Add Yours
Possible causes
- Faulty Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1
- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 harness is open or shorted
- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 1 circuit poor electrical connection
- Exhaust gas leaks Help with this
When is the code detected?
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) detected the HO2S12 sensor has reported a lean condition for an extended period during an intrusive test
Symptoms
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- High Fuel Consumption
- Excessive Smoke from Exhaust
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The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) supplies a voltage of about 450 mV between the HO2S high and low signal circuits. The oxygen sensor varies the voltage over a range from about 1,000 mV when the exhaust is rich, down through about 10 mV when the exhaust is lean.
The PCM monitors and stores the heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) voltage information. The PCMevaluates the HO2S voltage samples in order to determine the amount of time the HO2S voltage was out of range. The PCM compares the stored HO2S voltage samples taken within each sample period and determines if majority of the samples are out of the operating range.

Definition of Diagnostic Trouble Code P2272 Category: Powertrain Definition: O2 Sensor Signal Biased/Stuck Lean Bank 2 Sensor 2Note: This definition of P2272 is applied to all manufacturers

P2272 - O2 Sensor Signal Biased/Stuck Lean Bank 2 Sensor 2
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Possible causes
- Faulty Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2
- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 harness is open or shorted
- Rear Heated Oxygen Sensor Bank 2 circuit poor electrical connection
- Exhaust gas leaks
What does this mean?
When is the code detected?
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Possible symptoms
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- High Fuel Consumption
- Excessive Smoke from Exhaust
P2272 Description
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The PCM monitors and stores the heated oxygen sensor (HO2S) voltage information. The PCMevaluates the HO2S voltage samples in order to determine the amount of time the HO2S voltage was out of range. The PCM compares the stored HO2S voltage samples taken within each sample period and determines if majority of the samples are out of the operating range.
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DTC P0134 - 02 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected (Bank I Sensor 1)

The powertrain control module (PCM) provides a baseline voltage of about 450 mV on the oxygen sensor signal circuit. When cold, the PCM detects the the internal resistance of the sensor is high. As the sensor warms up the resistance is lowered and it starts producing voltage based on the oxygen content in the exhaust. When the PCM determines that the time it took for the sensor to warm up is greater than one minute or that the voltage is inactive (not reading outside 391-491 mV it views the sensor as inactive or open and sets the P0134 code.

Potential Symptoms: One or more of the following may occur:
* Check engine light illumination
* Poorly running/engine missing
* Blowing black smoke
* Poor fuel economy
* Dying, stuttering

Causes: A code P0134 may mean that one or more of the following has happened:
* Bad O2 (oxygen) sensor
* Bad heater circuit in the O2 sensor
* Wiring or connector to the sensor frayed / broken
* Blown heater circuit fuse
* Holes in the exhaust system
* PCM failure

Possible Solutions: The most common fix is to replace the oxygen sensor. But that doesn't rule out the possibility of:
* Rusted exhaust pipe
* Inspect wiring & connector(s) for problems
* Excessive amperage blowing heater fuse (still requires replacement of sensor but also replacement of blown fuse)
* Replace PCM (only as last resort after all other possibilities are covered.


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This code refers to the front oxygen sensor on Bank 1. Basically the oxygen sensor is inactive. Here's why:
The powertrain control module (PCM) provides a baseline voltage of about 450 mV on the oxygen sensor signal circuit. When cold, the PCM detects the the internal resistance of the sensor is high. As the sensor warms up the resistance is lowered and it starts producing voltage based on the oxygen content in the exhaust. When the PCM determines that the time it took for the sensor to warm up is greater than one minute or that the voltage is inactive (not reading outside 391-491 mV it views the sensor as inactive or open and sets the P0134 code.Potential Symptoms
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