My book shows positioning of distributor for v8 not v6. with No reference to v6. I've just completetely rebuilt this engine. Basic timing at Cam and Crank is correct. (I've checked 2-3 times). Getting fire at plugs. Sounds like the engine is just spinning over. Can it be 180 degree's out?
I found this web reference for a 2 year older Dodge that might help:
On 98 dodge dakota with 3 9 V6 how do set up the distributor
This web reference indicates a VAST difference between the V6 and V8...so you could be on the right track with your 180 degree comment:
"The V8 mark is 17.5°after TDC and the V6 mark is 147° after TDC"
Good luck on your troubleshooting ... and kudos to take on an engine rebuild!
SOURCE: 4AGE DIZZY TIMING
With the timming marks lined up make sure that cylinder 1 is at top dead center on the compresion stroke, then as you lower the distributer back in make sure that the rotor is pointing to the number 1 plug wire post on the distributor cap,mark the distributor where the #1 post is since you can't install it with the cap on.
SOURCE: need firing order on a 1996 dodge ram v8
The order should be stamped on your intake manifold right under the air cleaner.
My '97 1500, 5.2, 318 firing order is 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2
Hope this helps
SOURCE: have kia sportage 2.0l four cam timing marks,!Whitch one?
gregorykilke: your engine has several references if you are describing the same vehicle. The 1996 KIA Sportage has a SOHC engine and was the last year to use one before they went exclusively to twin cams.
The timing marks are as follows: On the crank, position the crank to where the woodruff key is in the 12:00 position. There is a metal plate with a notch behind the gear. If you look closely at the engine behind the plate, thought the notch, there should be a small "ARROW" which should fall within the notch. If lined up properly, the #1 piston will be at TDC.
On the top end of the engine, your cam gear is numbered 1-2-and 3. Position the cam to where the #2 on the gear is at 12:00. On the back side of that gear, should be a mark which should be running in line with the # 2 and it is the "Match mark which you line up with the small arrow or "V" on the cover.
A word of caution! This is an interference fit engine which means it BENDS VALVES IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIMING CORRECT AND YOU HAVE BEEN SPINNING THE ENGINE OVER!
IF>>>you are lucky, you might not have had the timing too far off and the valves may be fine, but exercise EXTREME caution when setting up the valve timing.
One way to avoid bending valves, is to make sure none of the pistons are at or close to TDC. This way, you can roll the cam in position and then watch which direction is going to bring the #1 piston up and whether it is rotating the engine clockwise or counter clockwise to bring the piston to that position , it won't harm anything. IF you feel any resistance at all STOP!!!!!! because the timing is off and you will bend valves.
Make sure the tensioner pulley bearing turns smoothly and makes no noise. DO NOT WASH IT WITH SOLVENT OR SPRAY IT OFF WITH CARB SPRAY! The solvent will get inside the sealed bearing area and contaminate the lubricant causing a premature bearing failure and a potential disaster for your engine!
Should you need further assistance on this subject, just ask and I'll do what I can to help. The belt tension is also CRITICAL!
Take care guy, Give the folks at FIXYA some input if I am doing you any good or if I have helped anyone else, write in and let them know. They want feed back. GOOD LUCK!
SOURCE: 1991 Firebird 305 V8 TBI won't start
ok, here goes, i also have a 305 tbi.. i know it sucks to reach things on them, but you have to know how... i have headers on my bird and that gives them about 2 mm of clearance for the bolts, and i recently replaced the heads and alot of gaskets and such..
The front spark plugs you should be able to reach from the top, but for the back plugs and wires you may have to jack the car up and come from the bottom.. (the only way) .. now on to the timing.. remove the distributor cap and you will notice the rotor bug.. next you will need to remove the number one spark plug..(closest to front driver side of car) now put your finger over the spark plug hole while you have someone crank the engine.. you will be able to feel compression.. when the hole pushes your finger back with air, notice which direction your rotor bug is facing and make a mark.... this approximation will be where to connect the number one plug wire on the distributor.. put the distributor cap back on hook up the number 1 plug wire to the plug and continue clockwise with the firing order... firing order is written on intake just below front of air filter it shoul be like 18436572 or somethin like that.. after you check, your plugs and wires and ensure good connection. you can take a 7/16 end wrench and loosen your distributor.. have someon cranking and holding gas while you slightly turn the distributor back and forth until it sounds good.. be careful don't turn very far it can cause the engine to back fire and without the air filter on the gas will ignite and cause a small fire... (This could be your only problem because if the distributor is moved at all the firing process will become all screwed up)
SOURCE: 2002 Dodge Durango 4.7L V8 Check Engine Codes
1st try and search for a vaccum leak, due to the fact that these vehicles have had some bad problems with the length of wires and hoses, if there is a vaccum leak in the vehicle somewhere that will trigger other malfunctions in your vehicle. Using a can of starting fluid or Brake cleaner spray lightly spray around our engine til you hear the motor rev-up and the spot you have sprayed will determine where your vaccum leak will be. And then check under your distributor cap for any moisture be sure to take a rag and wipe and residue off. Also check the firing order on your distributor.
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Crankshaft position (CKP) sensor
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Camshaft position sensor
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Gear drive and shaft
The camshaft drives the distributor shaft which rotates providing a spark to the correct cylinder by way of the cap and rotor. The camshaft position (CMP) sensor functions much like the crankshaft sensor previously described but provides only a 1x signal to the VCM. That is, for every 2 rotations of the crankshaft, there is 1 rotation of the camshaft. Note that the camshaft position sensor will not affect driveability. The sole purpose of the camshaft position sensor is to provide the VCM with the necessary information for the misfire diagnostic trouble codes (DTCs).
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