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Hi i have a problem with my ranger 2950dx which is when on AM or FM (SSB ok) the radio very quickly get so hot on the side where the audio chip is, think the heat is coming from the voltage reg? that you cannot touch the radio then what happens you get a loud machine gun noise coming from the speaker the only way to stop it is to pull the power then reconnect but soon as you key up or turn the volume up this noise starts again help

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  • kozzae427 Jun 04, 2011

    hi tony
    i use my ranger on the 10mtr FM part of the band where all the 10mtr repeaters are! 29mhz
    we have a major group of hams on this here in Australia and also in the UK when i lived there
    so my radio only gets used on USB/FM nobody uses AM , these are one of the best 10mtr radios around for FM work!!! as i said the heat is coming from the voltage regulator next to the audio chip and i dont have echo i have opened the radio to check for heat the power levels are right 25w ssb 10w fm the rear end of radio dont get hot,hot on any mode
    something is causing the voltage reg to heat up? not sure if it is the audio ic ? i have a new one of those to solder in but not sure till i get some more answers cheers

  • kozzae427 Jun 04, 2011

    Hi tony
    the radio works fine on SSB the problem is only on AM / FM
    so i only get major heat from voltage ic when using AM/FM
    the heat i get from the rear end is normal on both SSB/AM/FM
    the problem aint at that part, its gotta be around the voltage reg / audio ic
    dept!
    so when it heats up real bad this is when i get the machine gun noise blasting thro
    my speaker the only way to stop the noise is to pull the power wait a minute then reconnect
    it will work fine for say the first key then the noise is back or sometimes by turning up the volume control the noise will start only if it has been doing it
    i have seen this problem on a radio 20yrs ago but cant remember what the cause was?
    think it might of just been the audio chip or a cap?
    just dont wanna solder this new audio ic in in case it gets damaged
    not unless im sure this could be the problem?
    have you any idea what voltages i should get on the legs of the audio ic
    i can then test cold then hot? what about a voltage check at the voltage reg?
    what other reason would there be for this part to hot as hell??
    colin

  • kozzae427 Jun 04, 2011

    hi tony
    done that but cant get a reading doing the apc i take it i need to remove the short pcb? i get no reading on tp8 do i have to bridge tp7 & tp9 before i get a reading?
    col

  • kozzae427 Jun 05, 2011

    hi the buzzer aint buzzing. the voltage regular gets hot real hot after keying the radio for more than 30secs on AM or FM once the side of the radio heats up where the audio ic is the radio starts making a very loud motor boating / machine gun noise coming from the speaker which only
    i can hear, if i key up while the noise is happening the person whom i am talking to dont hear it
    it only stop when the radio cools down! so something is causing the voltage reg to heat up to quick or more than it should! SSB on the radio works fine i can talk till the cows come home! no heat??

  • kozzae427 Jun 07, 2011

    hiya
    what cap is it?? thanx

  • kozzae427 Jun 07, 2011

    Ranger 2950dx over heating problem
    on FM tx the voltage regulator 2SB827
    get so hot within 30seconds you cannot touch it!
    its fine on SSB all the levels in the radio are fine ,but after 5minutes of this heat i get an audio problem where this loud motor boating noise
    starts and the noise level is increased or decreased by turning up/down the volume only way to stop the noise is to pull the 12v supply and let it cool down i need a fix before the big hammer comes out!!!!

  • oz1dwx
    oz1dwx Nov 27, 2012

    change C182 to 1uf

  • Anonymous Feb 18, 2013

    Exactly same problem with mine, anyone found the answer ??

  • Anonymous Feb 18, 2013

    It's not the caps, or the audio chip, but still testing...

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No its the audio chip that has shorted out its mounted on the center middle of the radios circuit board, and the radios side chassis is the heat sink,open it up and when it starts to get hot and motor boat/machine gun,spray it with circuit board chiller(available at any electronics parts dealers)and see if it ceases,also spray any nearby capacitors and the board too as if a cap gets hot in this circuit the thing will either short or go open and chilling these components will heal them till they get hot again,then just replace the suspect component

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The noise comes from the power supply.It is a static sound that comes from the voltage out put of the transformer...this static is suppose to be filtered by the capacitor..replace this capacitor with the same rating and value riffle DC voltage happens when this capacitor is faulty...good luck

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  • You run your Ranger on FM? FM use Full Modulation. It puts everything that radio has in the way of power as soon as you key down (No "Swing.") In fact FM on a Ranger is pointless because the frequencies on FM that are available on the Ranger are CW only unless you are using Sideband with FM on say 28.400 USB but you said SB was fine. If you put that radio on FM and key down you are lucky your radio is even working at all and this could be part of your problem.
  • As for this problem on AM, you could have weakened things when keying on FM. You could have fried the Audio Chip. Could have a bad crystal. Could have a shorted transistor.
  • Any mods been done to this radio? Is there an Echo Board inside this radio? Is the radio new? New to you? Have you opened the radio at all? If not, open it and see if the chip itself is getting hot of something else.
Tony

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        I'm in America and this site is based in America so unless some indicates being from across the pond I have to assume they are also in America. They are about the best for 10 meter and SB for that matter. Over here people modify them so bad, they turn a perfect radio into trash and they often ruin fast and that was the basis for my original statement.

        You also stated that SB worked fine in your original statement and that only AM and FM works OK but then in your second statement you say it gets hot in any mode. The difference in those statements can effect my diagnosis. If it gets hot in any mode then the IC chip can absolutely be the offender as well as the voltage regulator for that matter. If it worked as with your original statement OK on SB then I would be less inclined as the IC would effect all modes.

        I had one do this to me one time and it was the transistor feeding one of the crystals and had to replace the crystal and the transistor.

        The only way to be positive is to either enlist an Oscillator Scope or replace a parts or two. Start with the voice chip.



    Regards,

    Tony

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    Or rather the radio messed up on FM and AM and SB was OK.

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        Hi Collin, A cap you can test with a multi meter. Unsoldier it and check for polarity. At least enough to see if it is faulty. It's getting hot because something is shorting or surging.

        PLL 2 VCO Voltage Set radio to 24.890 MHz, AM RX mode. Frequency setting at 29.699 MHz. Connect Multi-meter to TP10. Should read 4.5 VDC


          PLL 1 VCO Voltage Set radio to 24.890 MHz, AM RX mode. Frequency setting at 32.000 MHz. Connect Multi meter to TP11 and this should read 6.5 VDC.


            AM APC Set radio to AM TX mode. Connect Multimeter to TP8 VR15 6 VDC

            SSB APC Set radio to USB TX mode. Connect Multimeter to TP8 VR18 12.5 VDC



            There are some voltages for you to check.



            Regards,

            Tony


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Hi,

This problem comes froma faulty CPU or MCU board. You may needto replace it. If the buzzer is constantly making a noisewhen the radio is in AM, FM and CW but will not change frequency when FrequencySelector is moved and the Up Down functions buttons work OK Then the frequencySelector needs to be replaced.

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