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Leak on home A/C

My home AC was low on freon. I had a cert. tech charge the system back up to where it should be, but he never checked for leaks. 4 weeks later, same problem. I used soapy water to locate the leak myself, which is on a copper pipe just outside the condensor coils. My question is, is it ok to solder up the leak without removing the freon from the system, or would this be dangerous?

  • lvcta Jun 17, 2008

    Thanks burzerko. I'll let the pro's tackle it!

  • Anonymous Jun 20, 2008

    I had a/c tech recharge my system to 75 psi and two weeks later it's at 52 psi and he said that he was not able to locate any oil stain? I'm afraid that I will be back at "0" in two more weeks. How do the soap and water work? When do you apply this solution?

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You need to have the system evacuated to fix this leak. First thing is for safty reasons, for your protection and refrigerant release. second is to make sure no contaminates are released inside your system. The tech should recover the refrigerant fix the leak, then purge with nitrogen, then pull a deep vaccum to 500 microns and it should hold for 20 mins. then he should recharge the system with refrigerant.

Hope this helps

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    The soap solution works by adding 1tsb to 1 quart of water then mix it well in a spray bottle spray all areas and watch for bubbles to appear. Sometimes this will give you a false reading though if the air moving arond is strong enough to create the solution to sud.

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1. use stop leak,(New heavy-duty stopleak product XL-4 ) because it is very difficult to find where is leaking.

2. connect to the low pressure fitting of the condenser and use the A/C gage meter to add ES-22a or R-22 until reach to 75 to 85 psi if the temperature is around 90 degree.

3. turn on the A/C and re-charge ES-22a or R-22.

4.If you do not know how to do it,hire a professional A/C man to do it.

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