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No fuel pressure in injectors

What happens when the fuel regulator( on the injector manifold ) malfunctions? With a newly installed fuel pump, there is fuel pressure in the line, but no pressure in the injector manifold. Nothing comming out of schraeder valve. Any ideas?

  • Banjoboy Sep 23, 2009

    Holy crow... where are the injector fuses!

  • Banjoboy Sep 23, 2009

    Where are the injector fuses? Or could it be a vaccum problem to the fuel regulator

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If the fuel preessure reg. is on the fuel rail after the injectors before the return line and is clogged fuel pressure will be higher than specs.but will be in the fuel rail.If reg. is before the injectors(as in at the beginning of the fuel rail) and it is clogged then there probably wont be any fuel in the line. I beleive the injectors may be the point of concern.Check the injector fuses first.

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