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Anonymous Posted on May 07, 2013

I have a 1840 Skidsteer, battery is good, 13.4 volts, and when key is turned to start the starter only clicks as though the battery is bad. Any solutions out there?

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I would remove the leads at the battery and clean posts and terminals to shiny clean . refit and tighten the clamps

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    Curtis Kosolofsky Apr 25, 2016

    If that doesn't help it is likely bad cables, not allowing full amperage to reach the starter. If not cables then the starter solenoid is bad.

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