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I have a 2002 ford expedition 5.4l engine. The vehicle starts and will drive 10 mph and if I accelerate it will stall. I pull over and it will start back up with no problem

Only code showing is P1451. I have replaced everything from the canister vent solenoid to the egr valve. This is the only code coming up but I do not understand why it causes the vehicle to stall around 12mph when its shifting

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Following are typical causes. Engine stall from a P1451 would be atypical so not sure why. Follow suggestion and test fuel rail pressure. It could be fuel pump (tank vapor pressure sensor) is failing and that could cause a false p1451.


P1451 Ford EVAP Control System Canister Vent Solenoid Circuit Malfunction

Possible causes

– Loose or missing gas cap
– Faulty gas cap
– Canister Vent Solenoid harness is open or shorted
– Canister Vent Solenoid electrical circuit poor connection
– Faulty Canister Vent Solenoid

Symptoms

– Engine Light ON (or Service Engine Soon Warning Light)

P1451 Ford Mercury Description

The Engine Control Module (ECM) detected the canister vent solenoid signal moved outside the calibrated parameters at a specific duty cycle.

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Check fuel pressure...could be a weak fuel pump

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Need to have it check for trouble codes...most auto parts will do it for free

Testimonial: "Only code showing is P1451. I have replaced everything from the canister vent solenoid to the egr valve. This is the only code coming up but I do not understand why it causes the vehicle to stall around 12mph when its shifting"

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SOURCE: engine misses when accelerating DOWN THE RD

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SOURCE: I have a 2000 ford expedition. Out of the blue it

You should be showing the check engine light--take the car to Autozone or other such business and get a free computer scan (they will be happy to sell you any needed parts). The scan should pinpoint any fuel or ignition problems. Good luck!

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SOURCE: i have a 2004 ford

Go to an Autozone or Oreillys for a free scan. Then get your repair parts. There can be many things including a "Limp Home" mode which it sounds like it is in. Check your Antifreeze level, watch your Temperature gauge as Limp mode can mean there is a heat problem in some system and the engine is designed to keep the RPM's down. Actually having the car limit its speed is an indication of the Limp and eliminates some other problems.

If you are far away from a parts store you might be able to get it scanned free someplace else. The scan does not fix it, but can diagnose it. You can contact us about the Codes and we can give you repair information and most good Autoparts places can tell you repair info too!

Testimonial: "yes it was helpful. thank you. i did forget to mention that i was given a code which was po7045 pressure control sol"

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SOURCE: My 1997 Ford Taurus stalls when I accelerate. It

Replace first, the fuel filter if this has not already been done. You may have a plugged filter, and these are very inexpensive. If this does not resolve the issue, locate the MAS (mass airflow sensor) located between the throttle body and the air filter housing. Start the car and let it idle normally; with a screwdriver handle or other such small tool, tap the mass airflow sensor (small black unit; will have a wiring harness hooked to the side of it); if the car dies, stalls, hesitates; first purchase MAS cleaner at the local auto parts dealer - specifically ask for Mass Airlflow Sensor Cleaner. It will should cost between 7-12 bucks - but you wont need the whole can - however, when using it: (if the car does not die, stall or hesitate and the idle stays the same, than the sensor is not bad) If it does however:
1. Remove the MAS (disconnect wiring harness) you may need to pull the top end of the air filter housing off.
2. Spray inside the sensor generously from both ends ensuring it's entirety is sprayed. Let stand for 15 minutes to airdry.
3. Re-install the sensor and start car. If there is still no improvement and the car hesistates, 1. Ensure the air filter as well is in good repair, and that there is nothing causing any air flow restriction between the airfilter and the throttle body.
4. If the airfilter is good, and there are no restrictions to air flow, consider replacing the MAS, however if you can get the car to the auto parts dealer, or to a technician (who may charge; auto parts dealers usually don't) have them run a diagnostics test on the car.
5. At this point, if cleaning the sensor has made no improvement, and the car stays idling, does not hesitate when tapping the sensor, the air filter is good, the fuel filter is good - then the next step is to replace the fuel pump.
Please let me know if you need further assistance.
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PROCEDURE 1
EVAPORATIVE EMISSION SYSTEM LEAK MONITOR
Inspection Conditions
Engine coolant temperature: 30°C (75°F) or less (The engine is stopped before the test drive is started).
Atmospheric temperature: 5 - 30°C (41 - 113°F).
Condition of A/T: Selector lever D range.
Fuel remained in fuel tank: 30 - 50% is recommended.
Time required: 16 minutes or less after started the engine.
Drive cycle pattern: One trip monitor (from start to ignition switch to "LOCK" (OFF) position. Well be completed while traveling with the following drive cycle pattern.
Test Procedure
Engine: start.
Accelerate until the vehicle speed is 89 km/h (55 mph) or more.
While keeping the accelerator pedal opening degree constant, keep the vehicle speed at 89 km/h (55 mph) or more and travel for 16 minutes.
Return the vehicle to the shop, then turn the ignition switch to "LOCK" (OFF) position.

PROCEDURE 2
FUEL TRIM MONITOR
Drive Cycle Pattern
Inspection Conditions
Engine coolant temperature: 100°C (212°F) or less.
Atmospheric temperature: -10 - 60°C (14 - 140°F).
Condition of A/T: Selector lever D range.
Time required: 30 minutes or more.
Drive cycle pattern: One trip monitor (from start to ignition switch to "LOCK" (OFF) position). Will be completed while traveling with the following drive cycle pattern.
Test Procedure
Engine: start.
Accelerate until the vehicle speed is 89 km/h (55 mph) or more.
While keeping the accelerator pedal opening degree constant, keep the vehicle speed at 89 km/h (55 mph) or more and travel for 30 minutes.
Return the vehicle to the shop, then turn the ignition switch to "LOCK" (OFF) position

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CATALYTIC CONVERTER MONITOR
Drive Cycle Pattern
Inspection Conditions
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Engine: start.
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