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Jerricho Bone Posted on Apr 26, 2017
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Ignition coil trouble 05 Ford five hundred sel it's missing while idling and running rough changed plugs and boots wondering if ignition coil are bad and how do I check them

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With the motor running and the hood open, try pulling a plug wire off one at a time. When you notice no change or stumble in the motor after pulling a wire off, then that would be the cylinder where your problem is.

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