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4 pin connector on my 09 caravan shows no power to any of the 3 light pins. This worked last time I used the trailer 6 months ago but now...........nada.

Tested 4 pin connector pin for lights. Trailer not connected.

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I also had the same problem with my 2008 grand caravan. It turned out to be a bad ground wire. A real difficult thing to find. You just might want to replace all of the wires or better still replace the entire harness it will save you a lot of trouble

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Sep 09, 2009

SOURCE: No trailer right turn signal or brake light

Hey Boon,

The pinouts for a 7-way plug are as follows:
Seven wire Trailer plugs:

Horse, stock or utility trailers:

White = Ground - 1
Blue = Electric Brakes - 2
Brown = Tail and clearance lights - 3
Black = Battery, aux power - 4
Yellow = Left turn/Brake - 5
Green = Right turn Brake - 6
Orange or Purple (not both) = Auxilliary or Reverse - 7

Recreational Vehicle:
White = Ground - 1
Blue = Electric Brakes - 2
Green = Tail and clearance lights - 3
Black = Battery, aux power - 4
Red = Left turn/Brake - 5
Brown = Right turn Brake - 6
Yellow = Auxilliary or Reverse - 7

In both cases 4 is battery and 7 is reverse, aux or not used.

Double check your wiring using these lists as a reference.

Click here for my post on Trailer wiring

This should get us closer to the answer.

Best regards,
Mike

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 16, 2009

SOURCE: electrical towing wiring problem on Grand Caravan 2006

Well the BEST way to fix that is take the Van AND Trailer to the dealer and make them check it over and get it working. Sounds like they screwed up., and are trying to blame the trailer. The 4 pins are easy to check Running lights, Left turn, Right turn and Ground. I suspect the 7 pin is wired wrong. I dont know why they put a 7 pin wiring plug on? Those are used for largeer trailers that need a battery feed and electric brakes

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2004 silverado, new trailer wiring, good ground. Problem is back up lights on trailer will not work with 5 pin trailer adapter.

5 pin trailer connections here went out when Noah died. They were standardised at 7 pin for a long time then for a short time there was 7 + 1 and even that didn't provide for reverse lights.

Some 30-odd years ago there was a return to a single 7 pin for trailers with an additional 7 pin for caravans, the two designated 7N and 7S and the supplementary plug provided facility for caravan battery charging, a 12 volt supply, additional grounds and reverse light.
Today the standard Euro 13 pin system is creeping in.

Although it is impossible to buy a 5 pin trailer plug/socket here, I understand it is permissible to use one in the case of very small trailers where a following vehicle can clearly see the direction indicators of the towing vehicle, though that still would not facilitate the connecting of a reverse light as obligatory lights must take precedence, the rear fog light being required as well as separate circuits for left and right tail lights so with a ground, stop lights and direction indicators = 7 pins.
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Trailer Wiring Standards (Color Codes/Plug Marks)

Hello all,

For those of you that have or occasionally borrow trailers and look at the wiring plugs with disdain (I mean face it they don't make sense, ground is white, +12vdc is black, etc), this is for you.

This will show you how to wire trailers with seven, six and four pin connectors

Plug Types/Application
7 Way - RV Trailers, Horse and Utility Trailers
6 Way - Horse, Stock and Utility
4 Way - Utility Trailers

Columns are: Color, Function, Mark on the plug.

Seven wire Trailer plugs (Large trailers with a battery and electric brakes):

Horse, stock or utility trailers:

White = Ground - 1
Blue = Electric Brakes - 2
Brown = Tail and clearance lights - 3
Black = Battery, aux power - 4
Yellow = Left turn/Brake - 5
Green = Right turn Brake - 6
Orange or Purple (not both) = Auxilliary or Reverse - 7

Recreational Vehicle:
White = Ground - 1
Blue = Electric Brakes - 2
Green = Tail and clearance lights - 3
Black = Battery, aux power - 4
Red = Left turn/Brake - 5
Brown = Right turn Brake - 6
Yellow = Auxilliary or Reverse - 7


Six wire trailer plugs:

Horse, stock or utility trailers:
White = Ground - GD
Yellow = Left turn/Brake -LT
Green = Right turn Brake -RT
Brown = Tail and clearance lights - TM
Red or Black (not both) = Battery, aux power - A
Blue = Electric Brakes - S

Recreational Vehicle: (color, use, plug mark)
White = Ground - GD
Yellow = Not used -
Brown = Right turn Brake - RT
Green = Tail and clearance lights -TM
Black = Battery, aux power - A
Red = Left turn/Brake - LT
Blue = Electric Brakes - S


Four wire plugs:
White = Ground
Yellow = Left turn/Brake
Green = Right turn Brake
Brown = Tail and clearance lights


Ground should be 10ga.
Others 14 ga

Best regards
Mike
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https://www.narva.com.au/resources/trailer-plug-wiring-diagram

https://www.narva.com.au/resources/trailer-plug-wiring-diagram

make a 5 pin plug ---- trailer wire ---- 7 pin socket
converter cable
5 socket 7 pin round plug
Pin 2 to pin 1 left turn wire yellow
pin 3 to pin 3 Earth return to body of car
pin 5 to pin 4 right turn wire green
pin 6 to pin 6 brakes light red wire
pin 7 to pin 7 Tail light Brown wire

if it is a rectangular 7 pin then
5 socket 7 pin rectangular plug
Pin 2 to pin 1 left turn wire yellow
pin 3 to pin 3 Earth return to body of car
pin 5 to pin 4 right turn wire green
pin 6 to pin 6 brakes light red wire
pin 7 to pin 7 Tail light Brown wire
refer to narva wiring diagrams to check
could use a 12v dc probe to sus out what the pins do.
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The tail lights on my 2006 dodge grand caravan don't work. Yet all the other lights do. I have replaced the light switch on dash but it did not fix the problem. Any ideas what could be wrong?

Get the wiring standard for trailer socket on car / caravan .
Something like this
http://www.caravantalk.co.uk/caravan-advice/new-to-caravanning/electrics-guide/12-volt-systems
Then get a 12v probe and test the voltage is coming out the correct pins on the car when the tail lights are turned on.
http://www.amazon.com/6-36V-Circuit-Test-Probe-Indicator/dp/B0065R1CK4
Check the Earth Connections on the caravans tail lights.
Check the Caravan has an earth connection to the car body.
https://caravanchronicles.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/caravanchronicles-wiring1.jpg
see how pin 3 shows an earth wire it would have a wire on car socket pin 3 going to the car body. If the earth wire is corroded or broken I think the tail lights on the caravan would not work. It may be a different pin on your setup .
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5 Way Systems

Same as 4 way system listed above but adds a extra blue wire for brake signal or auxiliary power. Used on pop up camper trailers or utility / boat trailers.
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My ABS light and check engine light comes on and

You could check a couple of things. There are a couple of connectors in the back of the instrument cluster, check for connection. Maybe a bad ground.

The Gen II caravans had other bizarre issues with the BCM. Chrysler did issue some TSBs concerning some of the. Some would include the HVAC controls not working, the wipers not working or doing whatever they want to, no horn, and other things that may make you believe that your car is possessed, as I have come to suspect. The BCM also controls the instrument cluster and can do some bizarre things there as well.
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Electrical towing wiring problem on Grand Caravan 2006

Well the BEST way to fix that is take the Van AND Trailer to the dealer and make them check it over and get it working. Sounds like they screwed up., and are trying to blame the trailer. The 4 pins are easy to check Running lights, Left turn, Right turn and Ground. I suspect the 7 pin is wired wrong. I dont know why they put a 7 pin wiring plug on? Those are used for largeer trailers that need a battery feed and electric brakes
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No trailer right turn signal or brake light

Hey Boon,

The pinouts for a 7-way plug are as follows:
Seven wire Trailer plugs:

Horse, stock or utility trailers:

White = Ground - 1
Blue = Electric Brakes - 2
Brown = Tail and clearance lights - 3
Black = Battery, aux power - 4
Yellow = Left turn/Brake - 5
Green = Right turn Brake - 6
Orange or Purple (not both) = Auxilliary or Reverse - 7

Recreational Vehicle:
White = Ground - 1
Blue = Electric Brakes - 2
Green = Tail and clearance lights - 3
Black = Battery, aux power - 4
Red = Left turn/Brake - 5
Brown = Right turn Brake - 6
Yellow = Auxilliary or Reverse - 7

In both cases 4 is battery and 7 is reverse, aux or not used.

Double check your wiring using these lists as a reference.

Click here for my post on Trailer wiring

This should get us closer to the answer.

Best regards,
Mike
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