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Anonymous Posted on Feb 14, 2010

Fans on both indoor and outdoor units are running but compressor wont restart, even after turning power on and turning back on. also, if compressor resets and runs, it'll run for a few minutes then trips off, and it takes a while to resets. service manual doesn't says much about compressor reset time/

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The compresor have delay protection and this wil not alow compresor to run only after few minits (turn off the unit and disconect from the main power suply, wait 30 minits and after that turnit on) or the refrigerant gas in the plant missing. in this case you must call specializated personel to find the leack and fixit, after that they wil refil whit refrigerant gas (r404, r 134, or what your unit have)

Testimonial: "thanks for your help, after further TS, found compressor was drawing high amps, running hot to the touch, suct pres(hi),conclusion air/nons, thanks"

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