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Prime oil pump, 231 engine

After replacing timing chain due to breakage, cleaned oil pump then tried to prime through distributor, 10-15 minutes of trying no oil, oil filter (new) was dry too. what gives???

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You don't give the year and model, and I'm sure its not a Cutlass Ciera if it has a 231.
Usually its a good idea to pack the gears with grease or vaseline to help prime the pump. Since the pump is mounted on the outside of the engine it can be very difficult to get oil from the sump into the pump gears for the first time.

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SOURCE: engine oil light is showing on the dash board after switching on

Most important thing you need to do is to establish the actual oil pressure. put a mechanical gauge on the engine and read real oil pressure. If pressure is low (min is 15psi, I prefer to see at least 20 at idle) there is an internal problem...bearings etc. If pressure is good, sending unit has failed...replace it. I would not drive it 'till the oil pressure is verified as being safe. You might get lucky and someone just forgot to plug in the sending unit, but it must be checked!!!
good luck

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try replacing the fuel regulator,or is the oil cap on tight?the fuel regulator works on base vacumm

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  • Posted on Oct 10, 2009

SOURCE: Nissan Sentra GA14 engine - Water in Engine Oil

was the 'mating' surface of the head and block cleaned of all old gasket/adhesive materials? was the head checked for 'warp-age'? if the head was warped by over-heating, that could allow the gasket to open up another water leak into the oil passages. could try having head re-torqued- that may tighten it up enough! i think 're-torquing' is usually recommended.
good luck!

Anonymous

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SOURCE: 90 Daihatsu Applause 1.6 engine cuts out, replaced

try faulty imobaliser / central locking if fitted

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SOURCE: I added engine flush to my Hyundai Verna CRDI VGT

no-please change the oil filter, the micron size on a typical engine oil filter is 20 micron-cleaning with kerosene oil will not remove any traces of wear particles

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