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I have 2008 GMC sierra 5.3 L with a new fuel pump. And no power to the pump. Any ideas where to look?

And where is the fuel pump control module?

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Fuel Pump Flow Control Module (FPCM) - LMF
The fuel pump flow control module (FPCM) is a serviceable GMLAN module. The FPCM receives the desired fuel pressure message from the engine control module (ECM) and controls the fuel pump located within the fuel tank to achieve the desired fuel pressure. The FPCM sends a 25 KHZ PWM signal to the fuel pump, and pump speed is changed by varying the duty cycle of this signal. Maximum current supplied to the fuel pump is 15 amps. A liquid fuel pressure sensor provides fuel pressure feedback to the FPCM.
Electronic Returnless Fuel System (ERFS) - LMF
The electronic returnless fuel system is a microprocessor controlled fuel delivery system which transports fuel from the tank to the fuel rails. It functions as an electronic replacement for a traditional, mechanical fuel pressure regulator. A pressure vent valve within the fuel tank provides an added measure of fuel pump flow control module (FPCM). Desired fuel pressure is commanded by the engine control module (ECM), and transmitted to the FPCM via a GMLAN serial data message. A liquid fuel pressure sensor provides the feedback the FPCM requires for Closed Loop fuel pressure control.

Fuel Pump Flow Control Module (Gas except LU3/LMG/LY6/LC9)
Mounted to the rear frame, near the spare tire mount
Wheels/Vehicle Underbody Component Views
Component Connector End Views
Fuel Pump Relay - Secondary (Gas with LY6)
On the fuse block - underhood bracket

DTC P0191: Fuel Rail Pressure (FRP) Sensor Performance
DTC P0192: Fuel Rail Pressure (FRP) Sensor Circuit Low Voltage
DTC P0193: Fuel Rail Pressure (FRP) Sensor Circuit High Voltage
DTC P0230: Fuel Pump Relay Control Circuit
The engine control module (ECM) sends the fuel enable signal to the fuel pump control module (FPCM). The control module monitors the voltage on the fuel pump relay control circuit. If the control module detects an incorrect voltage on the fuel pump relay control circuit, a fuel pump relay control DTC sets.
The control module monitors the voltage on the fuel pump relay control circuit. If the control module detects an incorrect voltage on the fuel pump relay control circuit, a fuel pump relay control DTC sets.
DTC P0231: Fuel Pump Control Circuit Low Voltage
DTC P0232: Fuel Pump Control Circuit High Voltage
DTC P023F: Fuel Pump Control Circuit
DTC P025A: Fuel Pump Control Module Enable Circuit

Your best bet , take it to a qualified repair shop , dealer .

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Figure 10: Fuel Pump Flow Control Module (Except LY6) Does yours have fuel pump flow control module under the vehicle Fuel Pump Flow Control Module (except LY6)
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Fuel Pump Flow Control Module (FPCM) - LMF
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