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Anonymous Posted on Jun 02, 2009

Cam timing with no colored links on chain!!

I just got through replacing the head gasket on a qg18de motor on a 03 sentra, i rotated the crank to tdc ( red line on the harmonic balancer) but im havin trouble with the cam gear ttiming. my chain only has one blue link which is for the crank im guessing due to the fact that no colored link is visable and it is at tdc now. ive already torqued the head bolts and only have to time the cams up. where do i start as far as timing the cams up? cam settings???

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    I don't see qg18de motor for that year of Sentra,There is a GA16DE with a double overhead cam,is your motor a double overhead cam with an upper and lower chain?

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