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Location relay switches on but will not rotate the engine to start

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No model Honda stated, nor year, 1973?
my guess is
car fails to crank, am i right,?
ask how to trouble shoot NO CRANK (easy)
if engine CRANKS, ask who to trouble shoot that (longest book on earth)
ever clean the battery lugs this decade?
no crank, does car have A/T o r M/T tranny, not stated.
did jumper starts or known good battery (fully charged) crank motor fast (y/n)
yes, bad battery
no, bad cranking system. (its a system not 1 part)

cranking dead.
i hot wire the starter, soleniod.
motor cranks but dont start (cuz keys are in my pocket for safety)
no crank is bad starter or bad battery cables
cranks fast. starter and crank shaft on engine spins normal
cause,bad key line.

post results. we can work a bad key line, after post tranny type.
the above cuts the problem in1/2.
1: bad cranking system.
2: bad key line.


if battery is just discharged, its a bad battery or bad charging system.
owning a charger solve this as is using a voltmeter on battery after a good start.

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