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85 xj6 4.2lt. fuel injected, (Problem will not start cold), Condishions.. Good fuel pressure, Good spark, Timing set at 10deg btdc, New injectors, and injector plugs ends have been tested "good" with diods, Oil fill cap tight, Crank case vent boot good, No vacume leaks, Alt air valve working withen specks, No exhoast leaks. I'm at whits end with this one, any sujestion.

  • iron_dragon5 Mar 12, 2009

    yes it has run before but with a very poor idle, I have primed the induction via a vac line to introduce fuel to the manifold, and it ran perfectly for a bref moment. at first I thought it was some bad spark plugs, but all checked out OK, So I naturally suspected the injectors, they have been replaced with new lines, and I was careful to not introduce any debree into the system, at this point I'm leaning toward an ECU problem, sense I have all ready checked all other related components, making sure they are all withen spec. but in all honisty, thats nothing but a best guess at this point.

  • iron_dragon5 Mar 13, 2009

    Yes it has a cool start injector, and I have removed it with the elct connector and fule line still connected, when I cranked over the eng it sprayed like it should. so I don't think it's the temp sender. I did learn that my fule pressure isn't what it should be, as It should be around 100psi plus at inlet, but is only 10 psi so I think I found the reason.

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85 jaguar xj6 dont get fire to coldstart valve

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Does it even try. (cough and sput) Will it start if you spray carb cleaner in it?

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  • Anonymous Mar 13, 2009

    Have you tried unplugging the coolant temp sensor? Does it have a cold start injector?

  • Anonymous Mar 13, 2009

    If the coolant temp sender thinks the engine is warm it won't start. If you unplug it, the ecu will enter a default value and it might start.

  • Anonymous Mar 14, 2009

    Yes that would do it. And you are right, if the cold start injector is firing the temp sender is likely o.k.

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