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Car starts and runs for about 13 to 20 minutes got new computer map mas still no go. wait for engine to cool off and will start. fan does not engage but sensors test ok. during diagnostics fan will run i am stumped

  • Anonymous Mar 29, 2014

    map sensor wasn't the problem still tries to start but doesnt

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Just did one in my shop yesterday. MY problem was injectors shorting out drivers in PCM after half hour of cooling down it would restart and die again about 20mins later. You need to narrow down what is dropping out. Most likely your loosing injector pulse and/or spark. You can buy a noid light for injector testing and a inline spark tester which you can tag on igition coil pack from local parts store also you can tag into injector harness on passenger side of engine with noid light, when it stalls see if light is blinking while cranking on both testers. IF you have spark but no injector pulse you have one or more injectors shorting (acceptable range is 13 ohms) any lower than 13 ohms injectors are toast. IF no spark and no pulse your ignition module and or crank sensor are bad, replace both, module is under coil pack and sensor on side of block.

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With a hot engine - and it depends how hot the engine is - the fan will only kick in to prevent overheating. In heavy slow moving traffic or a traffic jam, the fan will kick in if needed.

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