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DSC comes on at highway speeds on dry pavement. Cruise disengages. Have to manually override with DTC button or it will slow the car to stop.

Once problem starts it continues at low speed and especially bad when turning right. Causes DSC, tire and red "!" error lights to come on but reset after shutting off and restarting, though DSC problem continues. Mechanic traced to left rear sensor. Swapped left/right sensor and it still shows on left side. Replaced computer, problem continues. Mechanic wants to replace driveshaft but car is smooth as glass and no vibrations. Problem doesn't start until after driving about 20 miles. Car drives great otherwise.

  • Anonymous Oct 30, 2015

    Thanks for the answer, but the tires have been replaced and just this week put on my snows (on their own rims) and problem continues.

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2007 saturn sky brake lights on constantly. cruise control does nor work. neutral safety switch does nor work.

Your best bet , take your vehicle to a qualified repair shop that has a professional scan tool an service repair info . So it can be diagnosed correctly . The Stop lamp switch is not a old school conventional type . Has three wires , five volt ref. voltage from the BCM ,
Stop Lamps
The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The brake pedal position sensor provides an analog voltage signal that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. The body control module (BCM) provides a low reference signal and a 5-volt reference voltage to the brake pedal position sensor. When the variable signal reaches a voltage threshold indicating the brakes have been applied, the BCM will apply battery positive voltage to the stop lamps, center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL), transmission control module (TCM), and engine control module (ECM). Ground for the right rear stop lamp and CHMSL is applied at G402. Ground for the left rear stop lamp is applied at G400. The stop lamps on this vehicle will not illuminate unless the ignition is in the accessory, run, or crank positions. When the ignition is in the OFF position the stop lamps will not illuminate when the brake pedal is applied.

Checking for DTC's - diagnostic trouble code's in the BCM would be my first diagnostic step , not guessing an replacing parts .

DTC B3903 02: Stop Lamp Relay Circuit Short to Ground
DTC B3903 05: Stop Lamp Relay Circuit Open or Short to Voltage

DTC C0277 06: Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit Short to Ground or Open
DTC C0277 07 : Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit Voltage Above Threshold
DTC C0277 09 : Brake Pedal Position Sensor Circuit Rate of Change Above Threshold

DTC C0278 00: Brake Pedal Position Sensor Not Calibrated

DTC C0870 03 : Device Voltage Reference Output 1 Circuit Voltage Below Threshold
DTC C0870 07 : Device Voltage Reference Output 1 Circuit Voltage Above Threshold
As you can see a number of DTC'S can be set , so do yourself a favor an let a qualified technician check it

Circuit/System Description
The brake pedal position sensor is used to sense the action of the driver application of the brake pedal. The brake pedal position sensor provides an analog voltage signal that will increase as the brake pedal is applied. The body control module (BCM) provides a low reference signal and a 5-volt reference voltage to the brake pedal position sensor. When the variable signal reaches a voltage threshold indicating the brakes have been applied, the BCM will apply battery positive voltage to the stop lamps, center high mounted stop lamp (CHMSL), transmission control module (TCM), and engine control module (ECM). The stop lamps will not operate unless the ignition is in the ON position.

DTC P0572 : Brake Switch Circuit 1 Low Voltage
DTC P0573 : Brake Switch Circuit 1 High Voltage

It's hard to fix something when you don't have a clue how it works . The CC is also a controlled function of the BCM .
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Could have DTC'S - diagnostic trouble code's stored .
DTC P1554
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DTC P1585
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I will try and explain why.
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Cruise Control Disengaged
The powertrain control module (PCM) disengages the cruise control operation based on the signals from the following switches:

* The stop lamp switch
* The TCC brake/cruise release switch
* The clutch release switch, if equipped
* The cruise control On/Off switch

The TCC brake/cruise release switch and the stop lamp switch are mounted on the brake pedal bracket. When the brake pedal is applied, the normally closed TCC brake/cruise release switch opens and the normally open stop lamp switch closes. The PCM detects a low signal voltage on the TCC brake/cruise release switch signal circuit and a high signal voltage on the stop lamp switch signal circuit. When the clutch pedal is applied, the normally closed clutch release switch opens and the PCM detects zero voltage on the CCP switch signal circuit. The vehicle speed stored in the memory of the PCM will be erased when the cruise control On/Off button is turned OFF, or the ignition switch is turned OFF.

The Cruise Control System will disengage when the PCM detects that a driver override function has been active for approximately 60 seconds .

When the Cruise Control System is disengaged, the PCM sends a class 2 message to the instrument panel cluster (IPC) in order to deactivate the cruise control indicator.

Cruise Control Inhibited
The powertrain control module (PCM) inhibits the cruise control operation when any of the following conditions exist:

* A cruise control related DTC has been set.
* The vehicle speed is less than 40.2 km/h (25 mph) .
* The vehicle is in PARK, REVERSE, NEUTRAL, or 1st gear.
* The engine RPM is too low.
* The engine RPM is too high, with fuel cut off.
* The vehicle speed is too high, with fuel cut off.
* The system voltage is not between 9 volts and 16 volts .
* The Traction Control System (TCS) is active for more than 2 seconds .

Thank you for using Fixya and start with replacing the stop lamp switch. Even though the brake light work, it;s been known for that switch to cause your issue. that's way there was a recall for it.
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First the vehicle has to be operating at least 35mph. There will be two sets of switches, one set is to the left and the other set is to the right of the horn on the steering wheel. The switches on the left will be labeled on/off, the ones on the right we be labeled Coast/Accel/Resume..

At a steady highway speed press the ON switch, (at the left hand side of the horn) This will activate and turn the speed control system ON...

Then you have to set and adjust your desired speed...

To SET YOUR DESIRED speed , press and hold the accel switch (Right side of Horn) until your desired speed has been reached and then release the switch.. Speed control will now be on, activated and set, you will be in cruise mode..

If you need to coast due to possible traffic, press and hold the coast switch as long as you need to.. This is like taking your foot off of the accelerator pedal.. When you let go of the coast switch you will return to you set cruising speed.

Stepping on the brake pedal at any time will deactivate the system.. If you step on the brake, and then want to return to your previous set cruising speed... All you have to do is press resume...

I hope this has helped you? You can find detailed speed control activation instructions in your 2005 Ford Focus Owners manual.. If you did not receive your owners manual when you bought the vehicle.. You can purchase one at your local Ford, Lincoln or Mercury dealership..

Bill Andrade Ford Master Technician/Shop Foreman
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