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Anonymous Posted on Apr 15, 2013

I replaced the drive belt tensioner now the car wont start

The belt tensioner bolt tensioner broke of the bolts and my wife drove the car about 5 miles before I could replace the tensioner and now the car wont start

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  • Anonymous Apr 15, 2013

    The car turns over, but does not sound like it is getting fire.

  • Anonymous Apr 15, 2013

    I dont think that the timing belt would have slipped or jumped a couple of teeth. I guess I am not sure how the timing belt would have anything to do with the drive belt tensioner. The battery I went down and tried a new battery and the same thing happened . It would turn over but nothing else.

  • Anonymous Apr 15, 2013

    I still have not sort out the problem, Sorry for the confusion. I did make sure that the timing belt is in tact. The fan or drive belt is turning and feels tight. But still will not start.

  • Anonymous Apr 17, 2013

    I have somewhat narrowed it down to the spark plugs are not firing. All of the spark plugs! If anyone has any ideas please let me know.

  • Anonymous Apr 17, 2013

    I have somewhat narrowed it down to the spark plugs are not firing. All of the spark plugs! If anyone has any ideas please let me know.

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Well firstly if your wife drove the car for 5 miles with the tensioner broken, then the belt being lose will have slipped a couple of teeth. Did you set the camshaft and crank alignment marks correctly before you fitted the new tensioner? If you did and it still won't start then that means that you have one or two bent valve's in the cylinder head.You will have to remove the cylinder head and replace those valves or that car will never start again.

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  • Anonymous Apr 15, 2013

    Would the the drive belt affect the timing belt?

  • Claude Apr 15, 2013

    My apologies I have misunderstood your term the drive belt, as here in my country we know the belt that you are referring to as the fan belt(The one that drives the alternator, water pump and power steering etc.) If it is that and you still haven't sorted out the problem please let me know

  • Claude Apr 15, 2013

    Timing belt is usually separate from the drive belt, but there are some different models and makes that do come out with one complete belt to drive all the components and some drive the water pump, camshaft, and crank pully only (As in most late models made by Volkswagen) As in Volvo, well, they have followed suit on their late models.Your best bet is to examine the route of the drivebelt to see what components it drives and let me know as it could possibly be that the water pump was not working correctly due to the slack tension, thus causing the engine to overheat. Another possibility is that you might have accidently ripped of an electrical wire connection to the distributor or coil while you were working within the compacty area of the engine. Check for those possibilities.

  • Anonymous Apr 17, 2013

    Well I have narowed it down it the spark plugs are not firing. All of them. If anyone has any idea, please let me know.

  • Claude Apr 17, 2013

    Hi, I need to know what model series your Volvo is,Is it one of the following?...2ltr, 2ltr turbo,2.3 ltr, 2.3 ltr turbo, 2.5 .. (2.5-20 valve,) 2.5 TDI, or a 2.5 turbo? The belt that you are referring to as the drive belt is actually known as the serpentine or auxillary drive belt, which drives the alternator, compressor, power steering pump, turbo (and on some occasions the water pump which I mentioned earlier) This is why I need to know exactly what series of S70 you have in order to assist you ascertively.. In some series the water pump is driven with the timing belt whereas others the serpentine belt.Let me know.

  • Anonymous Apr 18, 2013

    It is a 2.4 ltr Turbo AWD

  • Claude Apr 18, 2013

    You're safe, the water pump is driven by the timing belt. No engine damage! When you fitted the new belt maybe the battery ran flat as a result of the alternator not turning, or maybe you removed the battery to charge it up. If so you will have to have the computer reset as there will be no power to the ECM thereby no fire at the plugs. It's highly unlikely that any other component would have broken down since you fitted the new belt as the engine never fired up in order to create any more problems. thus my final conclusion is the computer box to be reset. What you can do is unplug the main harness from the computer box ,charge up the battery and turn the engine a couple of times (while the computer is unplugged) then refit the plug onto the computer and try starting it again. If no luck then you will have to take it to Volvo agents to assist you.A reminder again to double check for any loose wires that you might have accidently pulled off while working in the engine compartment or the belt might have knocked off a wire near or on the alternator at the precise moment that your wife switched off the car. I hope you win.and best of luck

  • Anonymous Apr 18, 2013

    I will give it a try, thanks

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Well the first thing is I would check the battery volts if is only one belt it could be that is was running of the battery does it turn over or clicks check the headlights see if they are bright or dim

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  • hugo serna Apr 17, 2013

    does this has a distrbrutor cap if it does see if it turns when you spin the engine if it dosent let me rephrase that do a commpression check on each cylnder you should have at least 110 lbs of compression on each cylnder if you dont have any commpression then you have something wrong with the head i you have only one drive belt and it runs the w pump then the car got overheated and blew a head gasket

  • Anonymous Apr 18, 2013

    I tried new batteries, it turns over the same way. Timing is good. Commpression I have not checked yet because I spark plugs are not firing.

  • Anonymous Apr 18, 2013

    The car is fuel injection. The coils or coil is not allowing the spark plugs to fire.

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  • Posted on Feb 15, 2009

SOURCE: timing belt tensioner broke

The only issue is if the valves were bent as this is an interference motor. There is no scheduled replacement of the tensioner. I would have the motor pressure tested before replacing the tensioner to make sure nothing else was affected when the tensioner broke.

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  • Posted on May 08, 2009

SOURCE: replaced water pump nd timing belt now car will not turn over to start it trys but wont fully turn over. how do i get it to start

timing is incorrect/usually have to find #1 cyl top dead cent then use camshaft alignment marks and then reinstall belt.

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Nov 20, 2009

SOURCE: The serpentine belt broke replaced it and i broke

I had this problem, it turned out that A/C compressor had seized and wouldn't turn, because the compressor was stuck it would rip up the new belt- so you can one of two things;

replace the compressor and belt

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get a shorter serpentine belt and bypass the A/C compressor- there are several sites that show you how to route this.- i did this being a college student, not having A/C isn't that bad

Anonymous

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  • Posted on Feb 04, 2010

SOURCE: how do i release tension on tensioner to replace

there is a 3/8 slot to fit a ratchet wrench on the tensioner by the pulley.

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  • Posted on Aug 12, 2010

SOURCE: How do i release the tension belt ... cant seem to

Here's the procedure on how to release and replace the tension belt of your car.

Step 1

  • Open the hood on the Volvo S-60 and find the serpentine-belt routing diagram. The diagram should be attached to the top of the fan shroud that covers the radiator. If not, draw out the exact routing method of the serpentine belt around each pulley with a pen and a piece of paper.
  • Step 2 Locate the serpentine-belt tensioner that is in the very center of the engine. The tensioner will have a square bolt head in the center of the tensioner pulley.
  • Step 3 Slide the open end of the 5/8-wrench onto the square bolt head in the center of the belt-tensioner pulley. Turn the tensioner pulley counterclockwise and slide the serpentine belt off of the tensioner pulley.
  • Step 4 Remove the serpentine belt from the other pulleys and pull the belt out of the engine compartment.
  • Step 5 Slide the new serpentine belt into the engine compartment and around the crankshaft pulley.
  • Step 6 Route the new serpentine belt around each pulley. Turn the belt-tensioner pulley counterclockwise again and slide the serpentine belt around the tensioner pulley. Release the tensioner and it will tighten the belt around the pulleys. Look over the belt to ensure that it is inside of each pulley.
  • Step 7 Crank the S-60 and look over the serpentine belt with the motor running. Let the engine run for about one minute and shut the engine off. Close the hood.
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    Fig. Fig. 1: To check belt tension, push in on the drive belt about midway between the crankshaft pulley and the driven component
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    See Figures 2, 3 and 4

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    Fig. Fig. 2: Alternator mounting with slotted brackets

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    Fig. Fig. 3: Some components use a double slotted adjusting bracket with a threaded bolt and locknut to adjust and maintain tension. Loosen the locknut (shown) before adjusting the tension bolt


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    Fig. Fig. 4: An extension is helpful when adjusting the tension bolt. Be sure to loosen the nut/bolt on the rear slotted bracket first
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    1. REMOVAL
      AIR CONDITIONING BELT

      NOTE: The A/C drive belt self tensioner is NOT a dynamic tensioner. After adjustment the tensioner bracket bolts are tightened. The torsion spring is no longer responsible for tensioning the A/C belt. The torsion spring is only used for initial belt tensioning.
      1. Remove generator/power steering belt to gain access to A/C belt. Refer to GENERATOR/POWER STEERING BELT for procedure.

      1. Loosen BUT DO NOT REMOVE tensioner locking bolt and pivot bolt (Fig. 2).
      2. Insert 1/2" drive breaker bar into square opening on belt tensioner. Rotate tensioner counterclockwise until belt can be removed from pulleys (Fig. 2).
      3. Slowly rotate tensioner clockwise to relieve spring load.
      CLEANING
      Clean all foreign debris from belt pulley grooves. The belt pulleys must be free of oil, grease, and coolants before installing the drive belt.

      INSPECTION
      Belt replacement under any or all of the following conditions is required:
      • Excessive wear
      • Frayed cords
      • Severe glazing
    • Poly-V Belt system may develop minor cracks across the ribbed side (due to reverse bending). These minor cracks are considered normal and acceptable. Parallel cracks are not (Fig. 3).

      NOTE:
      Do not use any type of belt dressing or restorer on Poly-V Belts. INSTALLATION

      AIR CONDITIONING BELT - NEW

      WARNING: DO NOT REMOVE A/C BELT TENSIONER LOCKING BOLT WITHOUT FIRST HOLDING THE TENSIONER WITH A 1/2" DRIVE BREAKER BAR, AS PERSONAL INJURY COULD RESULT.
    NOTE: Verify that torsion spring position is in the new belt position before installing a NEW belt (Fig. 4). If torsion spring is not in the new belt position, follow steps 1-7 to change the tensioner spring from the USED belt position to the NEW belt position.
    1. Insert a 1/2" drive breaker bar into the square opening on the tensioner. Hold counterclockwise pressure on tensioner while removing the locking bolt (Fig. 2).
    2. Carefully release spring load of the torsion spring on the tensioner.
    3. Remove pivot bolt, tensioner, and spring from front timing cover.
    4. Insert spring arm into the NEW belt position on the tensioner (Fig. 4).
    5. Install torsion spring, tensioner, and pivot bolt.
    6. Install pivot bolt. Tighten only finger tight, at this time.
    7. Using a 1/2" drive breaker bar, apply counterclockwise pressure until locking bolt can be installed.
      1. Install the NEW belt by rotating the tensioner counterclockwise until the NEW belt can be installed on pulleys. See (Fig. 5) for belt routing.
      2. Release tensioner and remove breaker bar. Belt is automatically adjusted with the tensioner's torsion spring.
      3. Tighten tensioner locking bolt and pivot bolt to 28 Nm (250 in. lbs.) (Fig. 2).
      4. Install generator/power steering belt.
      AIR CONDITIONING BELT - USED

      NOTE: A "used belt" is considered having more than 500 miles of service use. NOTE: Perform steps 1-7 to change the tensioner spring from the NEW belt position, to the USED belt position.
      1. Insert a 1/2" drive breaker bar into the square opening on tensioner. Hold counterclockwise pressure on tensioner, while removing tensioner locking bolt (Fig. 2).
      2. Carefully release the tension of spring on tensioner.
      3. Remove pivot bolt, tensioner, and spring from front cover.
      4. Insert spring into the USED belt position on tensioner bracket (Fig. 4).
      5. Install spring, tensioner bracket, and pivot bolt.
      6. Install pivot bolt. Tighten only finger tight, at this time.
      7. Using a 1/2" drive breaker bar, apply counterclockwise pressure until locking bolt can be installed.
      8. Install the USED belt by rotating tensioner counterclockwise until belt can be installed on pulleys. See (Fig. 5) for belt routing.
      9. Release tensioner and remove breaker bar. Belt is automatically adjusted with the tensioner's torsion spring.
      10. Tighten tensioner locking bolt and pivot bolt to 28 Nm (250 in. lbs.) (Fig. 2).
      11. Install generator/power steering belt.
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