2005 Chevy Monte Carlo - LS, with spoiler - Ultratect Car Cover Logo
Anonymous Posted on Apr 04, 2013

No gears will engage, only revs up on my 3.4L V6 4t65e transaxle.

Had an OBD code originally come up but had disappeared when Battery drained and never was able to get the code off it. Battery works fine though just drained from sitting.. Transmission gasket, filter, plug (replaced), 1-2, 2-3 shift servo, lines, and 2-1 accumulator on bottom all cleaned out. Fresh transmission fluid. Oil, gasket and filter has been changed. Checked wiring to transmission all works. 12 Vs, 0 Vs and solenoids click on and off as should to valve body that I checked. Is this a possible torque converter being chipped or that? Only has 120k Miles. Did have a long shift to second a week or so before this set to this condition.

1 Answer

Brad Brown

Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

Superstar:

An expert that got 20 achievements.

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

  • Covercraft Master 19,187 Answers
  • Posted on May 09, 2013
Brad Brown
Covercraft Master
Level 3:

An expert who has achieved level 3 by getting 1000 points

Superstar:

An expert that got 20 achievements.

All-Star:

An expert that got 10 achievements.

MVP:

An expert that got 5 achievements.

Joined: Nov 14, 2008
Answers
19187
Questions
0
Helped
4346472
Points
82261

Are you sure that the pump is drawing fluid? Did you get the torque converter put back in right?

  • 2 more comments 
  • Anonymous May 09, 2013

    Oil Pump is fine. I wouldn't be able to start it up if that failed I would lose pressure inside the body. Initially though I already had tested the pressure port off the top and it was fine too. (Forgot to post that though) So far what I could see is that I had a bad 2-3 shift solenoid a bad Speed Sensor and PCS sensor was sticking. When I got back to the Drive Sprocket I realized win it went to spin it the differential is slipping. Torque converter was never put back on yet since it is still down. I know where the problem lyes at now but for the cost I pay to get new parts and fix it up again. I talked around to a few autoshops that we do business with all the time and autozone out here is willing to get me a remanufactured transmission for $1,300 dollars that is up to the new internal upgrades and fixes done already inside. 3 Year warranty/Unlimited Mileage nation wide coverage So I figured I take that deal up to save me any headaches down the road again. I do appreciate the help on posting.

  • Brad Brown May 09, 2013

    I was speaking about the oil pump in the tranny. Did not know you had tested the pressure. I wonder how you know if it wont shift if it is not back in the car? Since you had it taken down that far, you should have done a whole overhaul on it with bushings and all. 1300 seems high for that transmission. But with a warranty, it might be worth it. Check the blue book on the car and see if the value is more than the tranny. If it is not, well......

  • Anonymous May 09, 2013

    Yeah I was referring to the oil pump in the tranny. Generally if you lose that you lose all pressure inside and won't be able to start. It was before I removed it that I had the problem where it would not accelerate in any gear though. For the overhaul though and to upgrade it with better parts instead of them OEM ones. The blue book value on it is only covers general and not repairs or anything put in either so I don't necessarily go off that. They would state it around like $5.6k but that incorporate that I plan to take out the engine and rebuild it in time. This is just a point A to B car that I am using and don't care to sell. Remanufactured Transmission though I got comes with; Fully remanufactured and improved torque converter is tested for leaks, lock-up (if applicable), concentricity, and balance. Upgrades exceed OE requirements and eliminate the possibilities of front seal leaks, premature bushing wear, and vibration. Fully remanufactured valve body, with complete system correction and recalibration kit, improves pressure control and shift quality Complete road simulation using dynamometer testing program called C.A.R.S. (Computer Aided Road Simulation). All new, Delphi-spec bushings installed in key location to improve internal fluid flow control and fluid pressures. With the 3 year/Unlimited Warranty. I considered rebuilding it myself and replacing all the problems and doing the upgrades for it. All the parts and assuming I am going to the better new model transmission that was perfected it would of cost me close to around $1000 for what I needed plus my time to put it together still.. These were just some of the sites I went to and added up the pricing for just what I would of more or less got to do it. Thrust washer kit, New, $15, transmissionpartsusa.com Transmission Oil filter and Plug, New, $15, local auto parts store Intense false knock kit, New, $15, Intense-racing.com 2-1 Manual band, New, $10, transmissionpartsusa.com Input piston, NOS, $10, EBAY 4 M6 pan bolts, New, $16, Intense-racing.com Sprag retainer ring, New, $6, local GM dealer Sonnax TC relief valve, New, $5, tripleedgeperformance.com TCC apply valve end plug, New, $5, GMpartsdirect.com Case cover bolts, New, $9, local hardware store Lube dam , New, $2, transmissionpartsusa.com Sonnax lube tune retainer, New, $2, transmichigan.com, Master rebuild kit, New, $175, tripleedgeperformance.com EPC solenoid, New, $50, tripleedgeperformance.com 35/35 sprockets, used, $50, ClubGP Forward band, New, $50, tripleedgeperformance.com TransGo shift kit, New, $50, EBAY Sonnax boost valve, New, $45, transmissionpartsusa.com 4th Clutch hub, New, $45, GMpartsdirect.com Pump shaft, New, $40, GMpartsdirect.com TFP switch, New, $40, GMpartsdirect.com Teflon seals installed, New, $40, tripleedgeperformance.com GMpartsdirect.com 2nd clutch drum, Used, $30, EBAY Sonnax TCC valve, New, $25, transmissionpartsusa.com TCC solenoid, New, $20, transmissionpartsusa.com Drive links, NOS, $17, EBAY Harness, Used, $15, EBAY Solenoid Kit, New $80, EBAY Torque Converter, New $190 - $30 = 160 for Core Return, Autozone. A lot of the pricing and areas a friend sent over to me as well to help me out. I even checked and they were all spot on. I be around close to $1,000 and plus my time still and no warranty. 300 Dollars more I got the Remanufactured and Torque Converter, plus the A NO-HASSLE 3 Year/ Unlimited Mileage Nationwide parts and labor coverage. I see it as if a part does break I could save a bit of money and time this route. I already was looking at doing a whole replacement as I go along for the front and back all parts I need to replace, then replacing the engine in time as well at the same time. Most likely after the warranty is up on the Transmission haven't decided yet, and close to as many miles I get out of the engine before it gets close to it's days.. I have another 3.4L engine with close to 34k Miles on it from another Monte Carlo that had been totaled on the backside, but engine matches the same one I got and has no damage to it so far I have seen going through it.. I have been rebuilding/tuning/checking and working on it just here and there but should have it finished in a few more months with time. When I pull my other one I can repair that one or use it for parts as far as I see it. I figured with the extra engine though and remanufactured transmission now I could get a good use out of the car before it see's its last days. Only paid $1,800 he originally wanted $2,600 for the car since the orignal owner knew something was wrong with the car but wasn't sure what and they were quoting him different numbers and problems at the autoshops. I already knew the transmission was going bad when I test drove it, the engine and everything else runs fine. For the price I figured I do the work myself on it and only buy what I need and work it up to a good condtion vehicle again. Pretty good bargain deal since the guy wasn't sure what to do with all the different quotes and didn't want to take the risk on it. I have overhauled a lot of engines and transmissions in the past so I knew more or less what problems I would be looking at. This is the first 4T65E transmission I have ever taken apart to work on and got to get a good look at though at least before I decided on the route I was going to take since I could ball park the figures afterwards. I do appreciate the advice though, I had posted to a few forums on the problem. Learned some new things on this transmission which was good to know too. I guess this model tag had a high failure rate that people complained about. That is why everyone was upgrading it the newer style model to take the headaches away with it.

  • Brad Brown May 10, 2013

    Good for you

×

Add Your Answer

×

Uploading: 0%

my-video-file.mp4

Complete. Click "Add" to insert your video. Add

×

Loading...
Loading...

Related Questions:

0helpful
1answer

I have a code PO651 on a 2005 Chevy Alvalanche

Symptoms of a P0651 code may include: Failure of the transmission to shift between sport and economy modes Transmission shifting malfunctions Delayed (or no) transmission engagement Failure of the transmission to switch between all-wheel and two-wheel drive modes Failure of the transfer case to shift from low to high gear Lack of front differential engagement Lack of front hub engagement Erratic or inoperative speedometer/odometer

Read more at: https://www.obd-codes.com/p0651
Copyright OBD-Codes.com
0helpful
1answer

1995 Pontiac Grand Prix will not go into 1st gear. When gear selector is in 3, only 3rd and OD will work. It will NOT go to 2nd gear when the selector is in 3 or D. When gear selector is in 2 or 1, only...

You probably need a transmission pro to diagnose it properly, but it doesn't sound good. Was the original fluid you drained dirty brown? And did you see significant amounts of metal shavings in the transmission pan? The severe discoloration of the fluid is due to the clutch pack material wearing off and dispersed throughout the fluid. If the fluid smelled burnt, it is almost certain the transaxle is toast.
0helpful
1answer

1997 dodge intrepid 3.3 codep0733 and code p0700 how to fix

Both problems are related to the transaxle.
Code 733 is a sensor inside the transaxle telling the computer the ratio for 3rd gear is wrong, and code 700 is for a malfunction with the control system that handles the transaxle.
If you are not up for taking the transaxle apart, I would call around and see what the local shops say about the two codes.
0helpful
1answer

Code 1562.

P1562 mean Battery supply below 9V while engine running
Effect:
Maintains current gear in low range, limp
home mode in range. Shift pressure to
maximum, harsh gear shifts/engagement.
and here is the obd code reader, may be can help you.
0helpful
1answer

I have a 2001 dodge grand caravan with a transmission code 700,731,732,733 what is the fix

These codes mean 'incorrect gear ratio' referencing all four forward gears. Try to drain and flush the transaxle. Usually this means the computer can't shift the gear modulator and the line pressure is too low - either because the transaxle is low on fluid or the fluid is too weak to allow proper line pressure. Otherwise the PCM could be faulty - any other codes present?
4helpful
2answers

P0734

Description of fault code P0734:

This code is set if the value of input shaft speed is not equal to the value of the output shaft, when multiplied by the 4th gear ratio, while the transaxle is engaged in 4th gear. This malfunction is mainly caused by mechanical troubles such as control valve sticking or solenoid valve malfuctioning rather than an electrical issue.

From experience (sorry) you will end up replacing the transmission. This code usually indicates an internal mechanical failure.
0helpful
1answer

Clutch is going out need diagram to print out on how to replace it

Here are removal procedures. Can I send reinstall on another ticket? I don't think they will fit in one solution... Tranny REMOVAL

1.8L and 1.9L Engines See Figures 1, 2
  1. Disconnect both battery cables, negative cable first.
  2. Remove the battery and battery tray.
  3. Remove the engine air cleaner tube and the air intake resonator.
  4. Disconnect the speedometer cable at the transaxle.
  5. Remove the slave cylinder line-to- slave cylinder hose retaining clip, then disconnect the slave cylinder line from the slave cylinder hose and plug the hose.
  6. Disconnect the ground strap from the transaxle.
  7. Remove the tie wrap and unplug the three electrical connectors located above the transaxle.
  8. Remove the electrical connector support bracket.
  9. Install Engine Support Bar 014-00750 or equivalent, and attach it to the engine lifting eyes with suitable chains or cables.

a4d73b3.gif


Fig. 1: Install a suitable engine support bar and attach it to the engine lifting eyes-1.8L and 1.9L engines

  1. If equipped, remove the three nuts from the left-hand engine support bracket.
  2. Loosen the mount pivot nut and rotate the mount out of the way.
  3. Remove the three bolts and the left-hand engine support mount.
  4. Remove the two upper transaxle-to-engine bolts.
  5. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
  6. Remove the front wheel and tire assemblies.
  7. Remove the inner fender splash shields.
  8. Drain the transaxle fluid and install the drain plug.
  9. Remove the halfshafts.
  10. Install Transaxle Plugs T88C-7025-AH or equivalent, between the differential side gears.
WARNING Failure to install the transaxle plugs may cause the differential side gears to become improperly positioned. If the gears become misaligned, the differential will have to be removed from the transaxle to align them.
  1. If equipped with the 1.8L engine, remove the intake manifold support bolts and the support.
  2. Remove the starter motor.
  3. Unfasten the gearshift stabilizer bar nut and washers. Remove the stabilizer bar and bracket from the transaxle.
  4. Unfasten the shift control rod-to-transaxle bolt and nut and remove the shift control rod from the transaxle.
  5. Remove both lower splash shields.
  6. Unfasten the transaxle mount-to-crossmember bolts and nuts and remove the lower crossmember (rear engine support).
  7. Position and secure a suitable transaxle jack under the transaxle.
  8. Remove the front transaxle mount and bracket.
630acb3.gif

Fig. 2: Removing the front transaxle mount and bracket-1.8L and 1.9L engines

  1. Remove the lower engine-to-transaxle bolts and slowly lower the transaxle out of the vehicle.

CLUTCH REMOVAL
  1. If the clutch assembly is to be reused, matchmark the pressure plate and the flywheel so they can be assembled in the same position.
  2. Install flywheel holding tool T84P-6375-A or equivalent, in a transaxle mounting hole on the engine and engage the tooth of the holding tool into the flywheel ring gear.

bbecb06.gif


Fig. 1: Install a flywheel holding tool in a transaxle mounting hole on the engine, and engage the tooth of the tool into the flywheel ring gear

  1. Loosen the pressure plate-to-flywheel retaining bolts one turn at a time, in a crisscross pattern, until the spring tension is relieved, to prevent pressure plate cover distortion.
  2. Support the pressure plate and unfasten the retaining bolts. Remove the pressure plate and clutch disc from the flywheel.

If the flywheel shows any signs of overheating (blue discoloration) or if it is badly grooved or scored, it should be refaced or replaced.
  1. Inspect the flywheel, clutch disc, pressure plate, release bearing, pilot bearing and the clutch fork for wear. Replace parts as needed.
0helpful
1answer

How to fix a clutch

  1. Disconnect both battery cables, negative cable first.
  2. Remove the battery and battery tray.
  3. Remove the engine air cleaner tube and the air intake resonator.
  4. Disconnect the speedometer cable at the transaxle.
  5. Remove the slave cylinder line-to- slave cylinder hose retaining clip, then disconnect the slave cylinder line from the slave cylinder hose and plug the hose.
  6. Disconnect the ground strap from the transaxle.
  7. Remove the tie wrap and unplug the three electrical connectors located above the transaxle.
  8. Remove the electrical connector support bracket.
  9. Install Engine Support Bar 014-00750 or equivalent, and attach it to the engine lifting eyes with suitable chains or cables.



0900c1528008df44.jpg enlarge_icon.gifenlarge_tooltip.gif Fig. Fig. 1: Install a suitable engine support bar and attach it to the engine lifting eyes-1.8L and 1.9L engines
  1. If equipped, remove the three nuts from the left-hand engine support bracket.
  2. Loosen the mount pivot nut and rotate the mount out of the way.
  3. Remove the three bolts and the left-hand engine support mount.
  4. Remove the two upper transaxle-to-engine bolts.
  5. Raise and safely support the vehicle.
  6. Remove the front wheel and tire assemblies.
  7. Remove the inner fender splash shields.
  8. Drain the transaxle fluid and install the drain plug.
  9. Remove the halfshafts.
  10. Install Transaxle Plugs T88C-7025-AH or equivalent, between the differential side gears.


WARNING Failure to install the transaxle plugs may cause the differential side gears to become improperly positioned. If the gears become misaligned, the differential will have to be removed from the transaxle to align them.
  1. If equipped with the 1.8L engine, remove the intake manifold support bolts and the support.
  2. Remove the starter motor.
  3. Unfasten the gearshift stabilizer bar nut and washers. Remove the stabilizer bar and bracket from the transaxle.
  4. Unfasten the shift control rod-to-transaxle bolt and nut and remove the shift control rod from the transaxle.
  5. Remove both lower splash shields.
  6. Unfasten the transaxle mount-to-crossmember bolts and nuts and remove the lower crossmember (rear engine support).
  7. Position and secure a suitable transaxle jack under the transaxle.
  8. Remove the front transaxle mount and bracket.



0900c1528008df45.jpg enlarge_icon.gifenlarge_tooltip.gif Fig. Fig. 2: Removing the front transaxle mount and bracket-1.8L and 1.9L engines
  1. Remove the lower engine-to-transaxle bolts and slowly lower the transaxle out of the vehicle.
0helpful
1answer

Automatic transmission slips

Quote from Haynes manual for 2000-2005 ford focus:

'Due to the complexity of the automatic transaxle, it is difficult for the home mechanic to properly diagnose and service this component.'

You may have to visit a transmission expert...save up some $$ first.
Not finding what you are looking for?

102 views

Ask a Question

Usually answered in minutes!

Top Covercraft Vehicle Parts & Accessories Experts

Brad Brown

Level 3 Expert

19187 Answers

Kardoc

Level 3 Expert

7503 Answers

ADMIN Andrew
ADMIN Andrew

Level 3 Expert

66977 Answers

Are you a Covercraft Vehicle Part and Accessory Expert? Answer questions, earn points and help others

Answer questions

Manuals & User Guides

Loading...