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warren ganeles Posted on Dec 25, 2012
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Electrical system drains battery when vehicle not in use

Hard to start - must crank several times

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Normal for a 3 year old battery. it has internal resistance that discharges it self.


Disconnecting the battery will not help.

A way to see if vehicle is causing the discharge,but it will dump the radio and clock settings....take off one of the battery terminals and put a test light (12 V.) between the terminal on the battery and the cable end. If the test light comes on,there is something ON in the car.

If the computer memory is dumped due to low voltage,the car has to "re learn" all of it's setting and will usually not idle well at all!

Please have the battery load tested after it has been fully charged.

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