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Anonymous Posted on Oct 26, 2008

ENGINE LACKS POWER (4AGE) 1600 CC, 4 CYL, TWIN CAM

From a dead stop engine runs as if it is running only on 2 cylinders. I have automatic transmission, when it is in "Park" or "Neutral" it runs fine, but in gear, engine severely lacks power from a dead stop, once you get up to about 20mph engine starts getting stronger, ran codes and code given is "all systems normal". Don't know what to do totally confused? Car has new fuel pump, also replaced shift solenoid in transmission cause my car was starting out in 2nd gear instead of 1st. When driving, my car wouldn't downshift all the way to 1st gear only to 2nd. So when you would take off you would be taking off in 2nd gear but that shift solenoid was fixed.

  • Anonymous Oct 30, 2008

    I had the fuel pump recently replaced i just assumed the fuel filter was replaced also cause my fuel pump is in the gas tank. My air filter is clean and I have 4 fuel injectors, no carburetor. A friend of mine who has looked at my car for me says it sounds like there is some kind of air leak but can't figure out where it is coming from?

  • Anonymous May 11, 2010

    when the engine doesn't work under load it usually means its not getting the "fuel" it needs. air, gas or spark. If the car idles fine then air and spark are likely fine. Have you replaced the fuel filter recently? what about air filter? do you have fuel injectors or carbuerator?



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I had the fuel pump recently replaced i just assumed the fuel filter was replaced also cause my fuel pump is in the gas tank. My air filter is clean and I have 4 fuel injectors, no carburetor. A friend of mine who has looked at my car for me says it sounds like there is some kind of air leak but can't figure out where it is coming from?

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