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Posted on Mar 26, 2011

I installed a 30 gallon gas hot water tank and sometimes i get strong water pressure but my hot water doesn't last long enough for 2 showers, but if i have low water pressure we can get in 4 showers. Any idea what could cause this?

  • kbensette Mar 29, 2011

    perhaps i should have stated that i replaced a 30 gallon water heater with the same size. i didn"'t have this problem before. also didn't have the water pressure problem this often. i am on city water. thanks for your response.

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At a high pressure you are consuming more hot water. It sounds to me like the water heater isn't big enough for what you need. You can try turning up the heat thermostat on the water tank. If the water gets hotter you won't need as much for each shower and it will also recover faster at a higger temperature.

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Have you tried it with both (hot rod and Gas ) turned on at same time? Is tank well insulated? (looking from behind tank.)
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Link below is a troubleshoot for leaking water heater.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Leaking-water-heater.html

Protect yourself first:
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My friend welded his leaking tank, but he assumes the risk.
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Ordinary electric heater makes 20 gallons hot water per hour.

I buy water heaters at Lowes, Home Depot, Ace.
Look for scratch and dent models.
Buy drip pan for water heater.
Wrap electric heater totally with insulation except TP valve.
Buy new flexible connectors for water lines.
Offer 15% less than marked price on tank, because the store makes money on additional items.

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How to install gas water heater:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-install-gas-water-heater.html

Add a comment for more free help.
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http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-leaking.html

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Close cold water shut-off located above tank.
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1) Your water heater needs to be replaced.
It cannot be repaired.
Tanks rust out after anode rod is depleted unless anode is inspected and replaced 1-3 years.
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Electric: turn off circuit breaker

- Turn off water going into tank using shut off above tank.
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Make sure tank is full of water before turning heat source back on.
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http://waterheatertimer.org/9-ways-to-save-with-water-heater.html

http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-at-bottom-of-water-heater.html
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http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-at-bottom-of-water-heater.html

Also run hand over tank to find warm spot that says where leak is coming from
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Turn off water valve located above tank.
Open tub faucet on hot side and relieve pressure from tank.

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