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Posted on Feb 01, 2011

Got a 1980's eljer toilet tank top no.5540 that has a fire/blowhole half inch dia in bottom right side bowl outside that needs to be plugged or else house would flood. Any suggestions as how to fix permanetly so would never get a leak. THX.

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You need a heavy-bodies substance to fill the hole.
I have no idea if you can make this repair titanic-proof against leaks

Putty-stick-type epoxy from hardware or home center: Knead two parts together and apply in as many applications needed until hole is filled.
Auto-body filler? Fiberglass? Shoe goo? Ordinary caulk? Silicone caulk? Construction adhesive.
Nothing is going to be waterproof, so if a flood is likely, I would buy replacement product.

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