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Engine runs wide open regardless of throttle position. Governor moves when the engine starts. What could be the problem? Engine is a CV-15S Spec 41519

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Check that the ACTUAL position of the throttle plate closes off the carb bore. Often the actuating mechanism slips on the shaft on aome motors due to a loose clamp.

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Please, Do Not Hesitate, If you Hit a Snag or this Does Not Correct the Problem, I am Here if You Require More Assistance.
Hope this Helps. Let me Know What Happens, Please. May the All Mighty Bless You and Yours. Be Safe and Be Happy. Thanks.

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