I just replaced my in-pieces starter relay and thermal swich with a Whirlpool 4387535 kit. My Skybox has been working fine ever since.
Note I had the same symptoms as other posts of the compressor turning on/off continuously (but no cooling)...I believe what was happening is that the starter relay would allow current to flow to initially start the compressor, but would never stop providing current to it after it had already started (as it should) thus in a few seconds the thermal switch would sense this and trip / remove power to the compressor...then this cycle would start all over once the thermal switch cooled down again and let power back to the compressor...
This kit is evidently the newer style of what is on the original Skybox compressors (functionally speaking)...the new starter relay looks and installs like the old one, but the thermal switch is different and you need to remove the old one (follow the black wire on the top post of the compressor back a little to a small black round thing with a flexible metal piece inside). The good news is that once you remove it, it already has the correct spade lug on the wire to plug directly into the new thermal switch which sits right on the top lug of the compressor above the starter relay.
Note I'm not a service tech, just a Skybox owner who was/is tired of Maytag disowning this product and calling it a "throwaway" when any part of it stops working (and all local authorized service centers laughing when asked to repair one).
Continuing on with my rant a little, I also see other posts on the internet which also state "throwaway" when you actually have a bad compressor because you can't get direct replacements anymore - my friend who does AC work on the side said he most certainly could put another compressor in there from probably just about any other mini-fridge...he just noted that it is a small place to do it so the replacement compressor form factor will have to be considered. He stated you may get a little more or less cooling efficieny but who cares if you really want to keep your machine working that you can't buy anymore (nor get a close alternative).
Well planing on putting this up on youtube...so others can see. Grayfox24 is going to give me some instructions. I purchased the ERP410, which has 5 wires. I assume that you take the relay and overload off all together...but I will post the link when I get this all figured out.
OK...I posted this fix. It did work for me. My Skybox had stopped cooling. Clicked on for 10-15 seconds off...Ordered a EPR410 for $12 and installed it. That's it. works now.
My skybox started failing about 5 yrs after also. Same sound and stopped cooking as you described above. I followed your instructions. Ordered the part (which actually looks slightly different than in your video), which was $12.50.
Don't know much about appliances... I am not scared of electronics and computers and following your video, I was able to get the skybox up and running. It's been 2 hrs and it's already cooling.
Thanks for the video.
Is this video still available?
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Hello -- We had a similar problem. After doing extensive research online, I can tell you that the problem is likely either with the compressor relay (possibly fixable by you) or with the compressor itself (not fixable and apparently not available anyway). If the compressor is shot, then you probably have to cut your losses and give up on your Skybox. Our service tech told me that the Skybox is considered a cheap novelty item and pretty much a "throwaway" once it breaks down. Sad, but true. We were able to negotiate a settlement with Whirlpool/Maytag, but it takes a lot of time and effort and there are no guarantees about anything if the machine is out of warranty. Look on this website for some possible repair tips but be prepared for the worst.
I need a copy of the service manual as well .. could someone please send to [email protected]
THANKS!!!
found the service manual online !!
here it is ...
http://www.servicematters.com/maytag_lib...
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How do i find out where the wires go on the starter relay....i took it off and bought a new one but don't know how the wires go back on.....please help??
There is a stater relay unit that plugs into the compressor. It's white in color and has a "pig tail" capacitor.
The capacitor is what went on mine.
I took it to a local appliance repair shop and had it fixed for 45 bucks. It's back to working great again.
PS, Don't use the skybox outside, its meant for indoor use only.
High room or outdoor temperature will make the compressor overheat.
Do you know the part number for the capacitor?
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I just came from the Maytag repair shop because the cooling system stopped on my machine. The repair man laughed and said when he went to service school the class was told "if someone brings the Skybox in for repair, just look to make sure no wires are loose and if there aren't, then it is not repairable"!! He was laughing when he told me. So, I see Maytag discontinued them and used the excuse they were getting out of small appliances because they knew the phones calls were going to start for all the lemons they made and knew they were not fixable. I smell a class action suit!!!!!
Post your email i will send you the service manual there are too many things that can go worng you will have to search then via the manual
need your email to send you the manual
I know this post is really old if you still have the service manual can you please send me a copy.
thanks
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To second the request from mssaville; if you still have the service manual can you please send me a copy? Thank you much: [email protected]
Hey, I also need a copy of the service manual for Maytag Skybox #MBV1976AAP.
If you have a copy still I would appreciate it if you would send the pdf to [email protected]
Thank-you in advance.
I have the same model, MBV1976AAP and need the service manual to repair it. I'd appreciate if someone can forward me it to [email protected].
I bought the ERP410 Powerstart Relay. I just don't know how to ID the start, run and common terminals on the Maytag Skybox. I'd appreciate help here. Thanks
I also need a copy of the manual too... Please :-) [email protected]
Can you please send me the manual too... Please :-) [email protected]
Any chance you can send me the manual as well? Would greatly appreciate a copy. Cheers! [email protected]
can you please send the service manual to me at [email protected]
If you see this, please send me the service manual [email protected]
I would greatly appreciate a service manual as well. Please send to [email protected]
Thanks
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I would really like to get the service manual please. [email protected]
Do you still have this?
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Your solution input has helped me tremendously. however I found an alternate component, since it was difficult getting ERP410. The alternate which worked perfectly, is part number RC0410, made by a company called SUPCO. It is also called a 3 N'1 START.
Can some one send me the skybox repair manual ( if there is one )..I will pay $$$$
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erp410 capacitor worked for me...simple 15 min fix..just cut the blue and brown wires from the whitne roud starting capacitor and splice in the red and white wires from the erp410 ..starts right up but takes a few hours to cool down and then is OK for 40 degrees or so of cooling. (red to blue,white to brown ) also parts list and parts are available from one of the google sites just keep searching for parts select or some name like that.
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I recently purchase a broken Skybox with hopes of fixing it. I looked in the back and saw what looked to be a PTC overload device which is plugged right onto the compressor, and a bi-metallic thermal switch, but I don't see the starting capacitor or a relay. This is a BMV 1976AAB built in 2004. Where are these parts located? Will the before mentioned 4387535 kit work on this model?
Bought this skybox on craigslis for 50. Knew the vending didn't work which was okay cause the thing looked cool, unfortunately it did cool either. Went with the erp419. 8.99 from amazon plus 5 s
My neighbor was given a Skybox by his boss and planned to scrap it. I offered to take it off his hands.
When I opened it up, I found the overload was fried.
I ordered up the ERP410 which did not work. I later found krause28's youtube video and see his fix only lasted 5 weeks.
I went ahead and ordered the parts t-tek recommended and still no luck. I think my compressor is locked up.
When I turn it on, I get across the start cap and then after a couple minutes the overload kicks off. This cycle repeats and the overload has started to get hot.
I checked the cap and it appears good. I also wired in the cap part of the ERP and had the same results.
Looks like I am out $40, but it was worth a shot at getting the free unit going.
I've pulled the plug on it unless someone has additional suggestions.
Oct 28, 2010
Hi, I had the same problem where my skybox stopped cooling the drinks and would click off all the time, it has been approx 1 and 1/2 years since it last worked, however after reading the post from T-tek from 2 years ago, I purchased the parts he listed in his post and my skybox is like new again and up and running. It took about 20-30 minutes only. Thanks T-tek.
Can you please send me the information from Ttek
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I had the same problem with my Skybox not cooling. After looking at the suggestions here I went with the ERP410 as well. Followed the video provided and I am back to Cool Beverages again. Thanks Skybox techies I couldn't have done it with out you.
Can someone send me the service manual for the Skybox. Mine doesn't get cold and the buttons on the front don't work anymore. Thanks
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Have the same cooling problem on my SkyBox. I spent some time looking at it today- from what I can tell the motor starter is fried (there are small pieces rattling around inside). If you can send me a manaul that would be great.
I think what you are hearing is the compressor trying to start, then the motor overload kicks in due to a problem with either the starter relay or starting capacitor. If I ever find a source for either part I will post the information here. So far no luck looking on the internet for the starter relay.
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our skybox just stopped cooling. i think the compressor kicks on but wont cool. can somebody please help me! thanks barbie
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HI, you will need to inspect the compressor to make sure it is cycling in intervals. if the compressor is not cycling, this will confirm compressor failure. The evaporator fan blows cold air into the freezer and from there it vents into the refrigerator. Occasionally the vents between the freezer and refrigerator can become clogged with ice, food or other debris. In most refrigerators the cold control for the refrigerator opens and closes these vents. That mechanism may become inoperative resulting in the vents becoming stuck open or closed.
Inspect the vents to determine what is preventing the free flow of air. An overcrowded refrigerator or freezer may be the cause. In other cases the vents may need to be cleaned or ice melted away. To remove a build up of ice, use a hair dryer set to "low". Using a higher setting may damage the freezer. CAUTION: Do not let melting ice drip onto the hair dryer. In some models, the vent is located under the temperature control console. The housing either snaps into place or is held in place with screws. Remove the screws, or gently depress the retaining clips with a small screwdriver. Allow the housing to hang by its wiring. A freezer vent control may also have to be removed to access the vent. In some freezer-on-top models, it may be necessary to remove the floor of the freezer to inspect for obstructions.
The condenser coils dissipate heat. If dust and debris accumulate around the coils, your refrigerator may not be able to cool properly, it may run continuously or it may stop completely as a result of an overheated compressor. You should clean rear-mounted coils once a year. Unplug the refrigerator before cleaning. Refrigerators are heavy, never tip one forward or backward. Never attempt to move a refrigerator without an assistant. Vacuum or brush the coils. If coils have a filmy build-up, use warm soapy water to clean them. Take care not to spill or drip water onto the components of the refrigerator.You should clean floor level coils at least twice a year. Unplug the refrigerator before cleaning. Vacuum or brush the coils. Remove the grill from the front of the refrigerator and use a vacuum with a wand attachment to remove any dust and debris. The grill should snap off and on. Pull firmly toward you and possibly upward to remove the grill. If it does not come off with a modest effort, check for screws or retaining clips that may hold it in place.
Another inspection point will be the door seals. This is a easy way for the cold air to escape from your unit as well. thsi will cause the temperature to rise. The seal should make smooth continuous contact with the refrigerator case. When the seal does not seal completely, warm air enters the appliance. This results in more frequently compressor operation and possibly the inability of the appliance to maintain proper temperature. To test the seal, use the dollar bill test. Place a a dollar bill or a piece of paper between the seal and the refrigerator and close the door. Now pull the paper out. You should feel tension as you pull. Retest along the entire door seal. Replace the seal if the test was unsuccessful.
Next will be the door switch. The interior light in most refrigerators, and the fan in some, is controlled by a door switch. When the door is closed, the switch is depressed and the interior light goes off and the fan resumes normal operation. If the door is misaligned or the switch malfunctions, the refrigerator may become warm as a result of the non-operation of the evaporator fan and the heat generated by the interior light. Test the switch for continuity using a multimeter. Set the multimeter to the ohms setting X1. Place a probe on each terminal. The multimeter should change from a reading of infinity to zero when the probes touch the terminals. With the probes still touching the terminals depress the switch, the reading should change back to infinity. If it does not pass both of these tests, the switch should be replaced.
Be sure to confirm evaporator fan function as well. if the fan is defective, it will prevent proper cooling as well.
This will conclude the most common issue with a under preforming unit. I would advise to check all the above and, if the unit continues to not cool after all the above adjustments are made, i will recommend replacing the cold control device and thermostat.
SOURCE: My maytag skybox does not cool very well
1) your box may be low on freon,
2) fault thermostat may cause unit run non stop,
causing evaporator to ice up and blocking air
circulation,
3) Dirt condensor thus reducing operation efficiency.
Check the simplest problem first - make sure condensor
coil is clean. if not, use a vacuum cleaner to clean condensor.
For # 2 is more likely if the evaporator has a fan.
If it has, check to see if it runs; it is behind the back panel inside box.
While at that, see if evaporator coil iced up. If it is defrost using hot water and turn it on setting thermostat to normal temp. setting.
If it work fine and later develops same problem, replace thermostat.
If the above 2 solutions don't solve the problem, call a technician to check freon.
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before replacing parts. unplug it and from back and under neath get all the dust out,best to blow air in there to remove dust than plug it back in and leave it on number 3 setting for 6 to 8 hours than if cold you can adjust the settings.
or part location is at www.maytage.com/skybox parts
Good Luck Im pretty sure you won't need to buy part's after air cleaning
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My skybox dose not cool anymore when I plug it in it sounds like the compressor comes on for about 10 sec. than shuts off. About 2 years ago the board was replaced under warranty.
The unit stopping cooling, now I hear the compressor coming on randomly for a few seconds at a time, any help?
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Mine also stopped cooling. Can I get the manuel? Thanks!
Exact same "no cooling" problems with all same symptoms. Plug in and hear the compressor for about 10 seconds and then off. Had this skybox for about 2 yrs and finally got this problem. Remove the dispenser assembly and inspected the interior, fan, circuit card, and all connections. No signs of burnt, corroded, or faulty wiring/conections. Remove the rear panel and all looks good with the exception of a frosted sensors lead (see attached pic). Hopefully it's not the compressor and just something like a relay or switch. Can someone send me a service manual to [email protected] so i can further troubleshoot/fix.
Mine quit cooling as well. It runs constantly but does not cool. I was advised by a local shop that they are "throw aways" is that true? I purchased it at Sears and they were little or no help. Any ideas?
I have the same problem. I think i hear the compressor come on but I think it stays on... so I assume that means the compressor is dead and not teh start capacitor? Can I get the manual? dell at ffzone.com is the address
Our SkyBox doesn't cool either. We have had it for a few years. We keep it in the garage, but now I guess we better bring it inside. Can't find anyone to service it and it's a bit to heavy to take somewhere ourselves.
Mine also stopped cooling...I believe the white relay on the compressor is bad as it sounds like alot of loose parts when I took it off and shook it.
Does anyone know a replacement relay part number? I tried searching all of the codes on the bad relay but couldn't find anything (it is marked on top as a Unidad Hermetica 3012-5A, 100-115V, some other codes on the side are 304181 CRPS Cubigel SA)
My skybox stopped cooling also. I have been trying to find a repair manuel or something to help me trouble shoot the problem also.
I bought a Maytag Skybox Model MBV1976AAB and it's missing a part in the back, I believe by the compressor. Not sure what the part is. Some sort of fuse or switch. It isn't cooling right. I was wondering if you have a diagram or something so I can figure out what the part is that I am missing.
had same problem, plug it in and a click is heard in about 10 seconds,the overload kicks it out. after exhausting all possibilities with maytag i found a "erp410" powerstart manufactured by "exact replacement parts company" that has a relay,capacitor and overload all as 1 component. cost $35.00 plus someone to install it which is basic if you understand electrical . unit has been working fine for over a month now.
Hi, I have a coca cola fridge I can't find the compressor mod# GVY40AD.
Can I replaced with diferent compressor?
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My Skybox blow cool air, but doesn't get the beverages cold.
Ditto on the cooling problems - hum noise until the overload cuts out. I suspect the compressor. I welcome any other suggestions. If it is, Is there a recommended retrofit unit replacement? Secondly, I will appreciate a copy of the manual also.
If you are still around I would like the service manual for the skybox. lighthouseaddict @ aol .com
Mine wasn't cooling for a while, the compressor wouldn't come on so I thought it was the compressor that went out. Today I purchased Whirlpool (since they now own Maytag) parts 61005504 start relay and 2162218 overload. Just installed them and compressor is running smoothly and unit is cooling.
I need a manual for my skybox... can someone email me it????? Thanks.... [email protected]
I love my Skybox..
Can somebody who has the cooling please post a picture or video on youtube, showing the parts needed to fix this cooling problem the parts are out there to fix this problem and is this really a do it yourself repair.....
Skybox quit cooling
I bought the 4387535 kit and it has no wires or instructions with it. It looks different that the white piece that I took off. It came with a flatter piece as well. I am not sure how to hook this up. Do I take the black wire off of the original round piece and hook it up to the flat piece. If I take it off, do I cut the black wire off becasue the piece connected to the round piece is not budging.
Also, do I hook the green wire up to the prong connected on the flat piece.
Any detailed help on this would be appreciated. My email is [email protected].
t-tek, thanks for your post, my skybox hasn't worked in a few years. I've always searched the internet every now and then trying to find a solution. Luckly, I found your post. I ordered a new starter relay and overload as mentioned in your post. I found them easily with the part numbers you provided on the website, partselect.com. One of their warehouses was in the same city as mine and parts came the next day. Today, I replaced the starter relay and plugged in the unit again and now it is already cold just a few hours later. If your skybox isn't working, I highly recommend you order these parts and try it. Turns out I didn't need the overload, but I'll keep it just in case. Total spent was about $30.
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