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After following instructions on winding the bobbin for the fast bobbin winding system, the bobbin is not threading

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If the bobbin spool is spinning, it will thread.

Take the end of the thread through one of the little holes in the side of the bobbin spool and pull out about 8" of thread. Hold onto it as the bobbin begins to spin.

After the thread has wound 5 - 6 turns, stop the machine and cut off the thread end. Continue the winding process.

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Y bobbin keeps bunching up when trying to stitch

Suggest you use a contrasting thread color on top to be sure it is bobbin thread nesting.

If it is bobbin thread nesting, the most common cause is bobbin tension. Be sure bobbin thread has not escaped the bobbin tension spring. Be sure to follow machine instructions for winding and loading bobbin.

See following video on testing tension.

https://youtu.be/YF7EOCvpHLg
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Winding a bobbin correctly

The heart of sewing is producing a well tensioned seam and achieving this with any sewing machine will be difficult if you don't wind a bobbin smoothly and with even tension onto the thread. If you look at your bobbin and the thread on it looks all lumpy and uneven, then this tip is for you.

Each time you wind a bobbin, whatever sewing machine it is on, it is really important to keep even tension on the thread as it winds onto the bobbin. Many machines will have a little tension disc you take the thread around but your technique is important too.

Usually you take the thread from your spool of cotton on the right, across to the left on the top of the machine and around a tension disc, or through a thread eye, then back to the right to your bobbin winding spindle, if your bobbin has holes in it, then pull the thread tail up through a hole and pop it onto the spindle. Engage the spindle by pushing across against the stop. Now start winding SLOWLY while holding the thread tail up in the air until the core of the bobbin has been covered in fully and your thread has covered up the starting point to hold the beginning tail. Stop winding, and trim the tail off against the bobbin with a pair of snips. Now resume winding at 1/2 to 3/4 speed and do two things, one with each hand. With one hand put tension onto the top of the spool you are winding thread off - use the curve of your scissors handle into the indent on top. And with your other hand, give the thread a nudge as it winds onto the bobbin to ensure you wind fully across the whole bobbin evenly. Watch it carefully to ensure that you get a smooth even wind.

An analagy: if you wind the garden hose onto the hose reel really fast and let it go anywhich way, the hose will kink and wind mostly in the middle then the reel's full and you've still got half the hose to put away. Thread is the same, its been wound onto a spool by a machine in a very precise way; you want the same smooth evenly tensioned winding onto your bobbin so that when you stitch out the seam the thread is consistently fed off the bobbin.

Don't be tempted to wind flat out and just let it take its own path as you won't get good smooth bobbins of thread. And if you let the thread come off the spool at a fast pace the spool may bounce around, causing fluctuations in the tension on the thread. When you stich a seam, the thread will relax unevenly in your seam causing puckers and ho hum stitching.

Simple stuff but it makes a difference!
on Oct 02, 2011 • Sewing Machines
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I have a brother CS-8072 sewing machine and need help winding bobbin. I followed the instructions in the manual but it didn't work.

What were the results of your bobbin-winding attempt?

Make sure the thread path is correct for bobbin winding and that the thread is seated in the tensioner. Most machines, it is better to NOT wind fast--although your machine says the opposite (???).

It looks like your thread comes off the spool goes to the left, through a guide, down to the front of the tensioner and the doubles back to go behind the tensioner before going to the bobbin. (Looks the thread goes counter-clockwise in front of the tensioner, then doubles back and goes clockwise around the back of the tensioner.)

Also, the problem may have to do with the spool type you are using. Try a different thread and spool--AVOID old or bargain bin threads.

If you still have problems, there is a stand-alone bobbin winder (called Sidewinder) for about $30 that is helpful to have. (Verify it will work with your machine's bobbins!) It is great because you can wind bobbins without unthreading your machine and it saves wear and tear on your machine.

http://support.brother.com/g/b/manuallist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hf_cs8072eus&flang=English&type3=348&type2=69

http://support.brother.com/g/b/manuallist.aspx?c=us&lang=en&prod=hf_cs8072eus&flang=English&type3=348&type2=69
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How to thread the bobbin winder

What you can do is simply wind the thread around the bobbin several times, slip the bobbin onto the bobbin winder spool, activate the bobbin winder while holding the thread tail. (FWIW, it is better to wind slowly. Fast winding will sometimes stretch the thread. Also, if something goes haywire, you can end up with a big wad of thread before you can stop the machine.) When finished, clip the excess thread tail off as close as possible to the wound thread. Thread tail extending beyond the bobbin can interfere with the machine function.
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When following manual directions to wind a bobbin, it starts out OK, but after several winds, the thread turns out with little loops on the bobbin. ??? Sylvia

Make sure that you are running the thread through the winder tension guide before it goes bobbin winder. Best to consult your owner's manual.

Also, it helps to slow down the winding process. Slower speed winds the bobbin more consistently and does not stretch the thread as much as a fast speed will.
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Trying to wind the bobbin on my Pfaff hobby 1132. The thread keeps coming off the bobbin thread guide. The bobbin winds, but the thread is loose and uneven. I've pushed the bobbin holder to the right and...

Check to make sure the thread path from the spool to the bobbin is correct. The thread should make a loop around a little post that is actually a tensioner that helps the thread wind smoothly onto the bobbin. If something is wrong with that tensioner or the thread is not following the correct thread path, it could cause the thread to not wind smoothly. It appears that your machine has two locations where the spool can be placed to wind the bobbin. You might try using the other option, if one doesn't seem to be working.

Also, you might try slowing the machine down during the thread winding process. It it goes too fast the spool begins bouncing and pulls the thread akilter. Also, some threads will stretch if the winding is too fast causing the thread to "shrink" when sewing your garment and creating puckers.

FWIW, I found that a "SideWinder" stand-alone bobbin winder is a handy gadget. It is available for ~$30 from JoAnn's Fabrics, Amazon, etc and is battery or electric compatible. It saves wear and tear on a machine and can wind multiple bobbins one right after another. Just be sure to verify that your bobbins will work on the SideWinder as some Singer bobbins will not.
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Singer 6268 bobbin winding

I've never seen this type of winding system. But from the manual on page 10, it shows that in order to disengage the machine from sewing mode.. you need to have the bobbin cover slide plate slightly open.

http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/1272_6268-_-6268_6267-wholeas-of-6_23_05-special.pdf

Also make sure that your bobbin doesn't have any burrs. If it does, toss it and use a new one.
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The tension on the bobbin is giving big loops and then breaking

This could be one of the following:
  • wrong bobbin for the machine
  • bobbin loaded the wrong way - must rotate anticlockwise when you pull the thread
  • thread not into the tension spring/device on the bobbin holder correctly
  • bobbin wound badly, uneven tension, loose or uneven across the bobbin
  • poor quality or old dry brittle thread could cause the breaking (but the loops is definitely tension issues).
This is a top loading bobbin machine machine and you can download a manual from
http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html

Here is the threading diagram from the manual.

tally_girl_21.jpg It is important to click the thread down into the tension spring on all top loading bobbin machines and then pull gently on the thread to check that it is under tension, you should feel firm resistance when you pull the thread. If not, then take it out, and try again.

Other thing to look at is how the bobbin is wound. It is necessary to wind a bobbin smoothly and with some tension on the spool as the thread comes off it. Best analogy is the garden hose reel. If you wind it up and don't control where the hose goes onto the reel it will all lump up in the middle, and you won't get all the hose onto it. And then when you go to pull the hose out, it will jam and be difficult to pull. Same with bobbin thread. You want a nice neat even fill across the whole width of the bobbin, not just the middle. To achieve this make sure you use the bobbin winder tension disc when winding. Also use the spool cap on top of the thread spool to stop it from bouncing around as it unwinds - the thread will then wind off around the spool cap and this keeps it running smoothly and not twisting and jerking. If you don't have a spool cap then put the curved handle of a pair of scissors on top of the thread spool to tension it while you wind the bobbin. Also watch the bobbin as it winds, give the thread a nudge with your finger to control the fill onto the bobbin so it winds top, bottom and middle of the bobbin evenly.

I would suggest the following:
clean out the race following the manual directions to remove the bobbin holder, clean in this area, replace it. Wind a fresh bobbin and then load it into the machine, following the manual instructions carefully. Also thread the top of the machine following the manual, put in a new sharp needle from the pack, turn the top tension dial to a medium number (often 5 if dial goes from zero to 10).

Now test sew again. Look at the seam, if you have loops on the bottom of the fabric, underside, then the top thread tension is too loose or not in the top tension discs fully. Generally you should not need to adjust the tension on the bobbin thread for these machines.


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I need to know how to thread a bobbin?

TRY THIS, itma not be your model, but should help Title:
How do I wind the bobbin? windingbobbin_02.jpg
ac093.jpg Pre-tension disk ac094.jpg Bobbin winder shaft ac095.jpg Bobbin

1. Pull up the spool pin as far as possible, and then put a spool of thread on this pin. windingbobbin_a0991.jpg
2. Pass the thread around the pre-tension disk. Make sure that the thread passes under the pre- tension disk.
windingbobbin_a0992.jpg ac098.jpg Pre-tension disk c_b4.jpg Pulling it in as far as possible

Caution If the spool of thread is not in the right place, the thread may tangle on the spool pin.

3. Pass the end of the thread through the hole on the bobbin from the inside of the bobbin. windingbobbin_a0993.jpg
4. Put the bobbin onto the bobbin winder shaft and slide the bobbin winder shaft to the right. windingbobbin_a0994.jpg
5. Turn the bobbin clockwise, by hand, until the spring on the shaft slides into the groove of the bobbin. windingbobbin_a0995.jpg ac099.jpg Spring on the shaft ac0991.jpg Groove of the bobbin

6. Turn on the sewing machine. windingbobbin_a0996.jpg
7. While holding the end of the thread, gently press the foot controller or press start/ stop button (for models equipped with the start/stop button) to wind the thread around the bobbin a few times. Then stop the machine. windingbobbin_a0997.jpg
Note
  • If the sewing machine is to be operated using the foot controller, connect the foot controller before turning on the machine.
  • When the foot controller is plugged in, the start/stop button cannot be used to start sewing (only for models equipped with the start/stop button).

8. Trim the excess thread above the bobbin. windingbobbin_a0998.jpg
Caution Make sure you follow the instructions carefully.
If you do not cut the thread completely, and the bobbin is wound, when the thread runs low it may tangle around the bobbin and cause the needle to break.

9. Slide the sewing speed controller to the right (to set the speed to fast).
(For models equipped with the sewing speed controller.) windingbobbin_a0999.jpg ac0992.jpg Sewing speed controller
10. Press the foot controller or press start/stop button (for models equipped with the start/stop button) to start. windingbobbin_a18.jpg
11. When the bobbin seems full and begins spinning slowly, take your foot off the foot controller or press start/stop button (for models equipped with the start/stop button). windingbobbin_a19.jpg
12. Cut the thread, slide the bobbin winder shaft to the left and remove the bobbin. windingbobbin_a191.jpg
13. Slide the sewing speed controller back to its original position (for models equipped with the sewing speed controller). windingbobbin_a192.jpg


Caution Not winding the bobbin properly may cause the thread tension to loosen, and may break the needle.
woundbobbin3.jpg ac0993.jpg Wound evenly ac0994.jpg Wound poorly


Note
  • When the sewing machine is started or the handwheel is turned after winding the thread around the bobbin, the machine will make a clicking sound; this is not a malfunction.
  • The needle bar does not move when you slide the bobbin winding shaft to the right.
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Singer touch n sew 750 winding bobbins

You can find Singer bobbin winding instructions at http://www.singerco.com/resources/bobbin_wind.html.
"Birdnesting" occurs when there is no tension on the needle thread to pull the bobbin thread. This is easily corrected by rethreading the machine, following the threading path carefully and making sure the thread is fully engaged in the tension mechanism.
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