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Just installed new american standard cadet 1.6 gpf toilet on 12'' rough in. now my toilet tank is 2'' off wall and concerned about tank when i sit back breaking or cracking flooding my house.what can i do ?

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Place a strip of wood moulding behind the tank as a filler. Allow enough space to take the tank top off.

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The 14" rough in is not standard (as in 12") and the depth (from the back of the tank to the front edge of the bowl is your concern here?).

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if you do have an old home you can order any 10" rough toilet at a plumbing supply store. or lowes. they probably wont carry them in stock though because 100 year old houses aren't very common
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