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Posted on Dec 02, 2009

Is a fire alarm device box installed with a raco retro ring in a 2 hr wall acceptable or does it have to be secured to a stud.

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If the add-a-depth is metal it is recommended to wrap the receptacle with some tape. Slide the add-a-depth over the wires that are attached to the receptacle from the rear. That's why there is a split in the add-a-depth, so you can get it over the wires that are attached to the receptacle. Usually you will have to replace the existing 6-32 x 1 1/4" screws with 2" or so. Then pass the screws through the ears on the receptacle, through the holes in the add-a-depth and into the hole on the box. This assumes that the ears will catch the tile. If the ears don't catch the tile, take a 6 or 8 inch piece of #12 wire and coil it around the shaft of a phillips screwdriver. Cut the coil to length and it is now your spacer that goes on before you insert the screw in the hole.

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