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Hot water heater not getting 220v to bottom element

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Provided the elements are good, the thermostats alternate sending power to the elements so the water heater will not draw too much power and trip the breaker. if you are concerned, replace both thermostats exactly as they are wired and that should fix the problem as long as the elements are good.

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Not familiar with that exact heater but if it is an electric heater with a top and bottom element this may be the problem. Electric water heaters usually heat water off the bottom element. If a lot of hot water is used then the top one kicks in through the temperature controls. In some cases if the bottom element burns out, it will try to heat everything with the top element. This sometimes causes the water in the top of the tank to actually get too hot and it opens the relief valve. So you may have a bottom element bad. Otherwise your relief vale may need replaced or you have a sticking temp control making it get too hot.
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If you have an electric water heater and it is not making any hot water then you have a problem. The good news is that electric water heaters are not that hard to troubleshoot and there are not a lot of things that can go wrong with them. I will go over the things that can give trouble and how to fix them.

First off if you have some hot water but not as much as you did when it was new then you probably have a bad bottom element. Only the top element is working, so you are only getting about 1/3 of a tank of hot water, replace the bottom element and you will be good again.

If you are making steam, then you have a bad thermostat. While you are making the steam out the relief valve, check to see which element is working. The easiest way to do that is to see which element has 220v on the two screws on the element. That thermostat at that element is bad. Replace it and you will stop the sauna.

If you have no hot water then check the red reset button directly above the top thermostat. You may have to push very hard on it to get it to reset. If the reset is tripped then you have a bad thermostat. Finding out which one can be tricky and timing is important to catch the bad thermostat in the act.

No hot water can also be the result of the top heating element going bad. If the top element goes bad then the top thermostat will never get enough heat to trip on the bottom thermostat. Therefore you will get no hot water. Dual element hot water heaters for residential use, do not ever run both elements at the same time. Only the top OR the bottom will be energized at a time.

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I have a 110v whirlpool 30gal. Hot water heater burning up element

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Not enough hot water is probably bad lower element, and possibly sediment build-up in bottom of tank.
Test element:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
Replace 4500 watt element available at local hardware, and clean out bottom of tank:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-water-heater-element.html

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check with a vom set on high voltage setting. for power... black wire to black wire,, white wire to red wire on heater ground wire to tank ..on 220v there is no neutral like on 110volts..check red reset button under top panel / control push on it resets it,,,
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Willard when you say it throws the reset button,do you mean the breaker on your fuse box of your home?
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No hot water, Rheem Model RR612T, Electric Hot Water Heater, 60 g

If you don't have current, 0v from terminal to terminal, then you don't have voltage to the elements. Replace the thermostat but check that you have 220v to the thermostat. It is possible that your breakers to the unit are either bad or tripped.
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