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PC8500 tension issues w/ free motion quilting. Either tensions too weak/strong, or gathering up fabric. Moved cone feeder, re-threaded & reloaded bobbin over & over.

I find sweet spot & get tension right, start a project, but when I rewind more bobbins/re-thread machine, I cant get it right. Using Brother Free Motion Quilt Foot SA129, new 100% cotton mach quilt thread, & new quilt needle. Any ideas???

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The PC8500 does not do free motion well because of its tension design, it is not you.It was one of he earlier machines to set tension by the thickness of the fabric. If you really want to do free motion then it is time for a different machine.

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SOURCE: Pfaff Select 4.0 has looping on bottom of fabric, free motion qui

Make sure your are lowering the pressure foot first before you start sewing. With the free motion foot, you still have to lower the pressure foot, this allows tension to be put on the top thread and allows the foot to work properly (when the needle goes down so should the foot and when the needle comes up it should lift the foot up.)

Also make sure your tensions are in a middle setting and that you are threading the machine with the pressure foot up.

The way to insure you will not get your problem is with the foot up, you should be able to pull the thread easily right before the eye of the needle and when you put the foot down you should then feel a fair bit of tension on the top thread.

hope that helps :)
chris

Posted on Jun 06, 2010

SOURCE: thread tension when free motion quilting

do you have this problem when doing regular sewing? if you do then the tension dial may be going bad & would have to be replaced

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I have a Janome Horison Memory Craft 8900 SpEd, thread looping on backing side for free motion. DO i NEED Part No. 200-445-007 Janome Bobbin Holder for Free Quilting and Hand-Look Quilt Stitch.


Free motion quilting is a finicky function, much more than most other sewing. Since you are getting loops on the back of the fabric, try increasing the upper thread tension. Tension causes the top and bobbin threads to pull against each other. If the pull is not equal, the threads will be pulled to one side or the other.

If you continue to experience looping under the fabric, it could be that the top thread is not fully seated in the tension disk. Try this:

Remove the top thread completely from the machine.
Be sure to install a brand new sharp needle.
ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot and rethread from the beginning.
Retest your machine.

However, if you don't find a fix, $25 for the special bobbin holder is probably a reasonable cost if it takes care of the problem. The reviews seem to be good:

http://www.sewvacdirect.com/janome-bobbin-case-for-free-motion-quilting-fits-models-mc14000-mc6500p-mc6600p-mc11000-mc7700-mc12000-and-more/

https://thequiltshow.com/forum/domestic-sewing-machines/120-janome-mc6600p
"Yesterday I bought a new free motion quilting foot and a bobbinholder (for free motion) for my MC Janome 6600P. I have been quilting all day, and belive you me it is a greate investment!!! :lol: :lol: Its like sewing on butter :lol: :shock:

Free motion Quilting Foot: part no.: 200-442-004 (MC6600P and MC11000)

Bobbin Holder (for free quilting and hand-look quiltstitch): part no.: 200-445-007 (MC 6600P, MC11000 and MC6500)

Bet you would love to have those too if you are doing a lot of free motion! The quiltfoot you can adjust so it works perfectly on your quilt!
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Install a brand new sharp needle (embroidery, top stitch, microtex, or universal) of the size that is compatible with the thread weight and fabric.

Drop the feed dogs. If you machine doesn't have the capability, there should be a feed dog cover in your accessory kit that needs to be covered,. This prevents the feed dogs from interfering with your manual maneuvering of the fabric.

Install a darning foot or free motion foot.

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A #16 needle seems pretty big for FMQ. Are you also getting pin holes in the fabric? Try using a top stitch, embroidery, or metallix needle.

Eyelashing is often a result of moving the fabric too quickly. Try speeding up your sewing speed or slow down the fabric movement. The object is to get the stitch speed equal to the fabric movement--and keeping it consistent. I tend to make swirls too fast which causes eyelashing.

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You may need to adjust the tension for FMQ--I have to tighten the bobbin tension a little to keep the bobbin thread below the quilt surface (so I bought a special bobbin case and set the tension for FMQ and that's all I use it for.)

Lots of web sites that talk about how to free motion quilt. Then, it's PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE! I use a portable white board and draw free motion designs on it (while watching TV, etc.). The idea is to get it fluid without jerking, jumping, speeding up or slowing down, etc. When your hand and brain are able to work smoothly, then you can probably do free motion quilting. Practice on scraps of fabric and batting (preferably the same kind you will be working on). Cut up some 14 inch squares of fabric and batting and draw designs on them and see if you can stitch them. Some advice: don't watch the needle...look at where you are going in front of the needle. Don't expect perfection to happen overnight. Many quilters have been FMQing for years and still make mistakes. (I've made a few quilts and my stuff still looks less than professional, but it's all mine!)

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You need to drop the feed dogs, install a darning or free motion quilting foot (make sure the presser foot is lowered). Because you will not be using the machine to move the fabric, the stitch length selection is of no importance. Make sure the stitch width is set to zero. You should test FMQ on a scrap quilt sandwich of the same makeup of your project, ie quilt fabric with batting sandwiched between. The upper tension should be set so that both threads meet in the middle of the quilt sandwich. Because it is FMQ, some extra adjustment may be needed.

Once the tension is where you want it, you can practice FMQ until you can move it smoothly in conjunction with the machine speed.

Practicing on a white board with erasable markers is a handy way to learn to move smoothly. The most difficult part of free motion quilting is learning to move the fabric smoothly. Do NOT lack for practice as that is the only way to improve. Those people who make it look simple have been doing it for years!

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Some sewists will free motion quilt without a presser foot (if they don't have a darning foot), but that is very dangerous as one can easily sew through a finger. However, even when sewing without a presser foot, the presser foot mechanism needs to be lowered in order to properly form stitches.

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It is creating "thread nesting" also called birdnesting. Could be several things:
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Remove the top thread from the machine.
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Tweak the top tension until the top and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

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