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Glue for metal needed

I am an artist, using found metal to create sculptures. I use everything from knives and forks to nuts and bolts, and lots of metal kitchen utencils. I am not able to weld, as I live in an apartment, and the items I am using are usually very small. In the past I have used two part epoxy, crazy glue, liquid cement, model glue and some kind of glue I got from an automotive store. After a maximum of a year, they all have fallen apart. Which after hundreds of hours of hard labour, is quite depressing. Can anyone suggest something that might actually work?

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Your problem arises from differences in the coefficient of thermal expansion for the materials you are joining and for the adhesive. What is happening is the temperature of your artwork changes through the day and through the seasons. With a change in temperature, the metal in your artwork expands and contracts much more readily than the adhesives you are using. This creates a shear stress on the joint and, over time, the joint fails.

To minimize this, keep the artwork in a controlled environment and out of direct sunlight.

I know of one product you might want to try: Gorilla Glue. You can find it in the paint sectionof your local Lowe's Home Improvement Center (among other places). This product foams and will fill some of the voids in your joint. Gorilla Glue purports to bond wood, stone, metal,ceramics, and more. Ultimately, I think that it will also succumb to theshear forces created by differing rates of thermal expansion. Alsonote that you will have to be quite creative infabricating fixtures to clamp your pieces stably for the required fourhours.

There are a couple of ways I can think of to overcome this problem:

1) You can try to match the thermal coefficient of expansion of metal and adhesive. It is difficult to find all of the pertinent data, but you can get a rough idea of what might work by looking through Chemical Rubber Company's (CRC) Handbook of Chemistry and Physics. Always, experience is the best guide, so I would encourage you to seek out those who make crafts similar to yours at art shows, at street festivals, and online. Ask them what they have found that works.

2) You can use a flexible compound such as silicone adhesive. This will largely withstand the shear forces and should hold if the metals surfaces to be joined are super clean and also oil free.

3) You can learn to solder. This method may be appropriate for some of your materials, but not all.

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Hello Eddie, W/D here.

I have found one two-part epoxey that is perfect for your use. It is called JB Weld, and comes in formulations for steel and plastic. It works VERY well. I have used it to mend a crock pot, a tractor block and dozens of other items. Get some and try it. You'll be pleased. Make sure that the parts that you intend to join together are lightly sanded to give the epoxy more surface area to adhere to, and clean them free of any oils, waxes or dirt.
Best regards, --W/D--

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