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Thread breaking on elna lotus tsp

Ive cleaned the bobbin area/case and its threaded correctly but the thread from top breaks within 3 sticthes. is it the tension? its set on 4

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When it stitches, does appear the top thread is tighter and pulling the bobbin thread up? Pay attention to what is happening before the thread breaks. Sew slowly and manually turn the handwheel. Where does it break? What are the symptoms before it breaks? Does it fray/shred at the needle eye? (The thread is not advancing through the needle eye properly and is actually being shredded, could be the needle has a sharp spot or the needle eye is too small for the thread. Coarse fabric will also shred thread.) Do you notice the top thread getting tighter and tighter and then finally popping? (The thread is being held back somewhere in the thread path {misthreading'--happens to me when it gets wrapped around the spool pin or a thread guide.)

Suggest removing the top thread completely from the machine. Install a brand new needle that is the appropriate size and type for the thread and fabric. Remember to ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot and rethread from the beginning. Verify the thread path is correct. Adjust the top tension until the top and bobbin threads meet in the middle of the fabric.

Why is my thread breaking

https://www.howcast.com/videos/512591-why-does-my-top-thread-keep-breaking-sewing-machine

http://www.servicethread.com/blog/stop-industrial-sewing-thread-breaks

Posted on Jul 19, 2018

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SOURCE: Bobbin thread breaks

Make sure your bobbin thread is turning clockwise as it sits in the bobbin case. There is a screw on the outside of the bobbin case you can turn with your thumb slightly to adjust tension. If you dangle the case from the thread and give it a light ****, it should move down slightly when doing so-an indicator of good bobbin tension.

Posted on May 20, 2008

chris07551

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SOURCE: I have a Janome 6500

is the needle god it might be bad and have a sharp edge thats braking the thread?

Posted on Jul 20, 2008

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SOURCE: bobbin thread breaks. sounds like clicking while sewing

hi there,
pls, the see the figure how bobbibs thread directionc21dcd7.jpghave you seen theres a screw on latch body case of bobins,you can adjust this but mostly this is factory
adjusted,bobbin tension can adjust here.but try to follow the thread direction.set up again the dial setup tension to #3 and stitch to #8 to #12.bobbins slip due to accumulation of thread under
bobbins.hopefully this may help you to continue sewing.
have a nice day,

Posted on Apr 19, 2009

Korede Atunrase

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SOURCE: my Husqvarna diamond top thread

Hello

Primary causes of upper thread breakage:


-- misthreading: pull all the thread off and thread again, using the manual, step by step. Read each step aloud before you do it. (sounds dumb, but helps.) (And make sure you thread the takeup lever!)

-- thread has wrapped itself around a thread guide or spool pin from one of the breaks. Take the spool off the machine before rethreading.

-- bad or damaged needle. Replace with the right size for the fabric, turned correctly (backwards needles skip stitches)

-- dirty machine, especially in the bobbin case area: review cleaning instructions and do it, using brush and vacuum only

-- bad/cheap thread: should not be slubby or break easy. Try another spool.

-- top thread tension too tight. 4 is normal for most fabrics, most stitches.

Tips;

1) do a light cleaning (brush and vacuum) every day you sit down to sew.

2) replace the needle if you hear it hit metal, if you've got a really bad thread jam, if you see it deflect as you sew (for instance, sewing over the side seam on jeans when hemming). Replace every 3-8 hours of actual stitching time anyhow.

3) buy good quality thread

4) when your machine isn't sewing right, stop; take all the thread off of/out of the machine (bobbin out of bobbin case, spool off spool pin) and give it a quick cleaning. Rethread from scratch, carefully. If that doesn't fix it, do it again, then replace needle and rethread one more time, manual in hand (yah, even if you've threaded it 8 million times before). #4 is curative about 98% of the time. The other 2% often requires professional attention.

Posted on Jul 11, 2011

the5ings

Kate Ingram

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SOURCE: The top thread continues to

I have 2 singer sewing machines and whenever the thread is breaking like that i find that I have to RE-THREAD the machine sometimes SEVERAL times until I can feel the thread give a little bit while its in there & not breaking! It's very frustrating but just keep rethreading from the beginning where you put the spool on your machine & sooner or later you'll get it right & it will work! GOOD LUCK!

Posted on Jan 19, 2012

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Winding bobbin on old elna lotus


I can help you with this, the Elna Lotus has a pretty simple bobbin winding system, the bobbin winder is top right of the machine, drop bobbin with holes to the top onto the spindle. Now Lotus have a dial on the right side which switches between bobbin winding, stitching and locked for transport, turn it to Bobbin symbol. Take the thread from the spool pin at the back across to the metal eyelet at top front (it sits inside the accessory tray when transporting so you may need to pop open the tray lid and flip this eyelet out)
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2. Lint has collected in the bobbin holder
3. The bobbin is damaged & doesn't turn smoothly
4. Lower thread tension is two tight

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2. Rethread the machine--top --make sure to use every thread guide

3. Take the bobbin out --make sure it is inserted correctly into the bobbin

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2. The needle thread tension is to tight

3. The needle is bent or blunt

4. The needle is incorrectly inserted

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I inherited my mother's Elna Lotus SP sewing machine. She had the sewing guide inside the machine, but not the instruction manual. I need to know how about the bobbin and how to thread?


Hi Jeanne, you might want to check out my tip on early Swiss Elnas,

http://www.fixya.com/support/r10602655-acquired_early_swiss_elna_sewing

it should help you get the Lotus going. Lovely machine. If you are in the USA you may also want to contact White Sewing Center as he may have this manual available for sale or a copy of it. www.whitesewingcenter.com.

Remember to use the Elna 7 hole dished metal bobbins, there are 7 holes on the top, and looks like this11_7_2011_6_23_57_am.jpg

Always wind it and insert it into the machine this way. Don't use any other bobbin. Standard needles 130/705H, flat shank to the back.

Check out my other tip on bobbin winding too, it is important to keep tension onto the thread spool that you are winding thread off as the machine doesn't tension the thread for you. So you need to apply pressure to the top of the thread spool as you wind off, use the curved handle of your scissors on the top of the spool.

Feel free to connect to me and ask if you have any other questions, I have a Lotus TSP at home and its almost identical to the SP. Happy stitching.

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My Husqvarna diamond top thread keeps breaking while doing loop embroidery. It sews a couple of stitches and then you can hear when the thread breaks. Ive tried changing the needle and bobbin, and cleaning...


Hello

Primary causes of upper thread breakage:


-- misthreading: pull all the thread off and thread again, using the manual, step by step. Read each step aloud before you do it. (sounds dumb, but helps.) (And make sure you thread the takeup lever!)

-- thread has wrapped itself around a thread guide or spool pin from one of the breaks. Take the spool off the machine before rethreading.

-- bad or damaged needle. Replace with the right size for the fabric, turned correctly (backwards needles skip stitches)

-- dirty machine, especially in the bobbin case area: review cleaning instructions and do it, using brush and vacuum only

-- bad/cheap thread: should not be slubby or break easy. Try another spool.

-- top thread tension too tight. 4 is normal for most fabrics, most stitches.

Tips;

1) do a light cleaning (brush and vacuum) every day you sit down to sew.

2) replace the needle if you hear it hit metal, if you've got a really bad thread jam, if you see it deflect as you sew (for instance, sewing over the side seam on jeans when hemming). Replace every 3-8 hours of actual stitching time anyhow.

3) buy good quality thread

4) when your machine isn't sewing right, stop; take all the thread off of/out of the machine (bobbin out of bobbin case, spool off spool pin) and give it a quick cleaning. Rethread from scratch, carefully. If that doesn't fix it, do it again, then replace needle and rethread one more time, manual in hand (yah, even if you've threaded it 8 million times before). #4 is curative about 98% of the time. The other 2% often requires professional attention.

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have you got the manual for this machine? You can download one from here: http://www.ps2netdrivers.net/manual/elna.2005/

It is a front loading bobbin and removabel bobbin case so I think the bobbin is a plastic "Class 15" - like this http://www.sewingpartsonline.com/bobbins-class-15-plastic-10-pack.aspx

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I'd suggest that you trouble shoot this and refer to the manual for cleaning instructions. If you can access them clean between the tension discs (turn tension down to zero and "floss" between the by running the selvage edge of a piece of clean cotton scrap through the discs to remove any lint/dye buildup). Wind a fresh bobbin and rethread referring to the manual to ensure the bobbin is turning the right way. New needle and rethread top thread refering to threading diagram. Tension on 5 and test sew again.

If you are still having problems, then the machine may benefit from a service by your local Elna dealer, a good service and clean at least every 2 years is recommended.

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Then place the bobbin into the bobbin holder with the holes on top, and pull the loose thread tail around anti clockwise into the tension device and gently "click" it into the tension spring with the tip of your finger while holding the bobbin still with your other index finger.

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