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I have a wall mounted tankless water heater for

I have a wall mounted tankless water heater for hot water radiating heat name rinnai inegrity model 2532 noise when operating never did this had unit 6 years pipes are getting warm its like vibrating unit itself

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Do you have a softener? Water must be 15 GRS/PPM or less in iron and calcium. Hot spots in unit are boiling water and are causing the noises.
Descale and flush unit following Rinnai Specs and check water hardness for compliance with Rinnai standards because too hard an inlet water will VOID the Heat Exchanger Warranty (10 year).

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SOURCE: I have a Rinnai model 2532 Tankless Water heater.

We had the same problem - the hot water would only be hot for 3 -5 minutes and shut off, then we had to turn the water off, wait a few minutes, and do it again. VERY FRUSTRATING.

Soution: The Rinnai serviceman showed me the heat-exchanger blower/fan: It was clogged with dust and moths.

Another clue: Our Rinnai was extremely noisy when the heat came on. After the fan was cleaned and replaced, it is nearly silent.

If you are reasonably mechanically inclined:
TURN THE BREAKER / POWER OFF to the unit.

The blower-fan is located in the lower central area of the unit (at least on our unit). If you draw imaginary north-south, east-west lines through the center of the unit, the fan is in the lower-left quadrant. There is a spring clamp securing the black rubber accordian-like tube to the fan. There are two screws that secure the fan to the unit. there are two plugs that connect to the fan, as well as a third air-flow sensor that should be removed. then you can look at the fan unit, as well as the grill on the underside of the heat-exchanger that should be cleaned.

My thought was to go out and get a simple bug-screen, and place it over the air-input outlet vent going outside, but the repair guy said that although it may sound good, if that screen ever gets clogged, or reduces airflow to the Rinnai, then the unit will work harder, or even shut off, giving the same problem. Also - the Rinnai pipe going outside is a pipe within a pipe - so its both inlet and outlet air.

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