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mark thrumble Posted on Oct 14, 2014

Wont to know which wire goes to which terminal after I have replaced the top grill oven element. Got one pink one orange and 2 black from right to left if I was looking at the back of the oven when th

Top oven replace the grill element 4 terminals and earth terminal in middle

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