Trouble shooting a bobbin threading issue for a Singer 5417C

Is there an up arrow in the icon you see? What you describe could be the Release foot controller pedal icon. Take your foot off the foot pedal. See the trouble-shooting page on page 102 of the manual. The manual is available from Singer here: http://www.singerco.com/uploads/download/5b9200a32cfd31ffc30b8d29fd195a57dff4a9e3.pdf .

You are supposed to take your foot off the controller (or press Stop) after winding a few turns of thread on the bobbin. Trim the excess thread above the bobbin. Then step on the foot controller or press Start. Release the foot pedal again when the machine stops winding the bobbin. See page 28 of the manual for the procedure.

I hope this helps. If you do not have the Release foot controller icon displayed, please add a longer description of the icon or indicate which icon from the trouble-shooting section of the manual that is closer to the one you see. If you have released the foot controller and the icon persists, then something may be wrong with the control pedal. A replacement control pedal is ~$35; see http://www.sewingpartsonline.com/singer-9960-quantum-stylist-parts.aspx .

Cindy Wells

Try a brand new needle. Verify that the machine is threaded properly--both upper and bobbin threads.

If it is still not picking up the bobbin thread, it is likely there is a needle/hook timing issue requiring service.

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Hi, not familiar with this machine, but a few tips -
Unthread the machine fully. Remove the bobbin. Is the bobbin thread the same as the top thread? Is it a Quality thread (yes, cheapie thread can give big issues!!) Do you have several different threads wound onto the bobbin?? Is the bobbin thread wound on quite tight? If you push your finger nail into the thread wound onto the bobbin, it must not feel soft or spongy. .... hope this in general helps some!

try changing the needle
rethread the machine top & bobbin
make sure the bobbin is inserted correctly in the bobbin case
make sure the top thread is not coming off the thread take up lever
make sure the bobbin is wound correctly
if these suggestions don't work, I suggest that you take the machine
to a sewing machine shop to have it checked

Good day!

please try this simple tips:

Good day!

A sewing machine operator can often help themselves when their machine does not operate properly.
Here are some simple instructions, which if properly used can save time and mechanics service calls.
TROUBLE;UPPER THREAD KEEPS BREAKING;
This could be trouble;================Do this;
1.Top tension to tight================loosen tension 1 turn
2.Machine improperly threaded=========check threading
3.Thread twisted on guide post========"
4.Thread twisted out of tension======="
5.Take up spring bent or broken=======Check action of spring
6.Thread jumped off pull off finger===Check threading
7.Needle bent or burred===============new needle
8.Bad cone of thread==================try another cone
TROUBLE;LOWER THREAD KEEPS BREAKING;
1.Bobbin tensionspring to tight=======Loosen tension slightly
2.Bobbin threaded wrong===============check threading
3.Bobbin wound to tight or uneven=====try new bobbin
4.lint or thread on bobbin case=======clean inside case
5.Lint or thread inside hook==========clean inside hook
6.Bobbin case nicked bent or burred===check/change case
TROUBLE;MACHINE STARTED SKIPPING STITCHES;
1.Needle bent or burred===============change
2.Needle set in crooked===============Check
3.Thread jumped off take up spring====check threading
4.Thread jumped off pull off finger===check threading
TROUBLE STITCHES SHOWING LOOPS;
1.Forming loops on top of cloth=======Tighten bobbin tension
======================================or loosen top tension.
2.forming loops on bottom of cloth====Tighten top tension
3.Bobbin placed in case incorrectly===remove and replace
4.Bobbin thread slipped from under====check threading of
tension===============================bobbin case
5.Lint or thread in top tension=======clean between tension discs


Thank you and good luck.

Visit this website http://www.singerco.com/accessories/manuals.html
enter in your model number and download the manual for your machine, threading issues usually either bobbin not in correctly, thread not in tension or machine incorrectly threaded, so review the manual threading instructions and follow them to trouble shoot your machine.

Sounds like what is called bird nests or thread nests. The top thread is not seated completely in the tension disk.

Remove the top thread completely from the machine.
ALWAYS RAISE the presser foot and rethread from the beginning. Verify the thread path is correct.

Now, retest your machine.

It sounds like you don't have any tension on the thread when winding the bobbin. Make sure that you are running the thread through the tension disc on the top of the machine before going to the bobbin winder.

Here's the manual,

http://safemanuals.com/user-guide-instructions-owner-manual/SINGER/3116-_M

Lets see if we can do some troubleshooting.

Have you checked your needle (size, for thread your using, material)
It sounds like a tension/settings issue, but could be as simple as poor thread quality. try changing the thread, and rewinding the bobbin. If using a silky material remember you need to back that up and make it stiff.
If this and a resetting of tension doesnt work,

Check your left side right side balance (pg 57)
Check page 84 on trouble shooting

Dear Wendy,

The E4, error message means the safety device is activated. Machine is locked up due to thread entangled with the bobbin case. Remove the needle plate and bobbin case. Check for any thread around the hook area. Also check your handwheel. It should turn freely. Good Luck