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Stanley Stone Posted on Mar 25, 2009
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Bobbin Winder Works--Stitching Does Not

I received this machine from my mother about a year ago. It stitched fine when I got it, but after winding my first bobbin, it would no longer stitch. I've checked inside the machine and the motor turns the bobbin winder, but is not engaged to the main shaft for stitching (must be a clutch in there of some type).

I've noticed that the sensor that determines when the bobbin is full doesn't seem to extend up to the bobbin--there's no way that it would sense the thread level in the bobbin. This plastic piece connects down to a switch on the power supply unit of the machine, but the way it is now, it would never trip the microswitch. I don't know if this is related to the problem.

So I understand that the machine would not run while filling a bobbin, but how does it know when it is not filling a bottom?

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The second microswitch that is located just to the right of the bobbin winder stop tells the machine that it is set to wind a bobbin.

If the machine does not indicate that the bobbin winder is engaged, the second microswitch is not the problem. The bobbin winder itself is what shifts the clutch. If it is pulled downward, the clutch is disengaged and the upper shaft does not turn. Place your thumb under the bobbin winder, push it upwards and the clutch automatically re-engages and the shaft will turn.

Be very careful with the touch screen cable with the front cover off. If it has the older style cable on it, they are very delicate when releasing and reconnecting. If you put the front cover back on and the touch screen does not work, this will be the most likely problem. You will need to have the touch screen replaced.

You need to get your bobbin winder turned off first, then worry about the stop contacting the thread. If the stop is not tripped, then it is in its normal position and everything should work fine.

When not filling a bobbin, simply raise the bobbin winder and you should be ready to sew. Look at the opening around the winder shaft in the front cover and you will need to have it up and to the right. Just push the shaft with your thumb.

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