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Anonymous Posted on Apr 29, 2013

Heater element only gets 120volts. Should be 240v, correct? Water does not heat up.

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Testing voltage on heater can be tricky since elements can test 120Volt to ground all all times.
This is because thermostats only turn off 1 Hot leg in the 240Volt circuit, while the other hot leg remains live. Each hot leg in 240Volt circuit is 120Volt.
http://waterheatertimer.org/B220C.html#120-240
Troubleshoot electric water heater:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html#reset
Try following things in order: Press reset button. Test elements. Replace thermostats.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html
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clay

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SOURCE: water heater not heating it's a richmond water heater

Now change the thermostats........this is the only other thing it could possibly be.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on May 30, 2009

SOURCE: How to replace heating element for InSinkErator W154 water heater

take the front cover off, it is just snaped on, there you will see it, depending on the age of the unit insinkerator will replace it for free, you just have to install it, but for the most part it might be cheaper to change the unit

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Jim DuBreck

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  • Posted on Feb 19, 2010

SOURCE: i have a rheem water heater model # 72- 40- 1 not

First, let me say that no Rheem electric water heater that I am aware of has only 1 element.
You may have to search - but there should be one about 8 inches from the top and another behind a panel about 10 inches above the bottom. Please search again.
It is NOT possible to add an element to a "used" water heater. The inner and outer liners must both be sealed and that is done at the factory.

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Nov 30, 2010

SOURCE: how do I change the

Buy elements at local hardware store or home center, like Lowes
Look at label on side of tank.
Label shows element wattage.
Element is also printed on end of element in tiny letters-numbers.
Typical elements are 4500 and 5500 watts.
Tank needs 10 gauge wire and 30 amp breaker for 5500 watt element.

Water heaters are fully repairable by homeowner.

1) Have you tested water heater to see if element is problem? You need cheap multi-meter from Home Depot.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html

2) To change element
a) turn off power
b) drain water from drain valve ... once it starts draining, loosen element slightly while tank still has weight to hold against you turning element wrench.
Here's what to do if water heater won't drain:
http://waterheatertimer.org/Water-heater-will-not-drain.html
c) open covers on tank, remove element using element-wrench from hardware store or home center.
If element won't come out:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-remove-old-water-heater-element.html
d) Clean out tank if needed.
e) Replace element.
f) Fill tank entirely with water before turning on power or element will burn out.
g) Once tank is filled, and water flows steady out of tub spout, turn on power.
Each steps above is shown on following link:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-clean-sediment-out-of-electric-water-heater.html

3) You need to buy some things:
Screw-in type (not bolt-in type) Element that matches wattage on tank label. New Element comes with washer.
Inexpensive Element wrench.
Inexpensive multimeter if you are going to test parts first.
Some pieces of pipe and hose if tank sediment needs to be cleaned out.
Washing machine hose if tank will not drain (return after job is done).

4) Also:
You need flat tip and phillips screwdriver.
Lighting to work on tank
Some WD-40 if element is stuck in place.
Garden hose to drain tank.
Shop vac and duct tape if you need to vacuum out sediment.
Tarp to protect floor and carpet
Maybe a knife to cut back insulation on wire if wire is burned at element.

Web links above go through entire process step by step.
Add a comment if you need more help, I'll be back around 5 CST

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Make sure wires are removed from element when ohm-testing.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
Watt and voltage rating of element appears on end of each element.
Volts squared divided by watts = correct ohm testing.
Two-element water heaters are rated for 240Volts, but can be wired for 120Volts.
Check that water heater is receiving power from circuit breaker box.
So if breaker is 2-pole 240Volt, then check that heater is receiving 240 V across top two screws on upper element.
Replace upper element.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-water-heater-element.html
Other resources.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Test-electricity-to-water-heater.html

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No hot water, checked ohms on both heat elements,top is 13.8 bottom is 13.4. i have 122volts to both elements and i played around with the heat adjustment on both top and bottom. over time could rusty well...

Marathon elements are specific to that water heater and can be ordered online, but generally are not at the local hardware.
Good to keep a couple spares around.
Marathon is 240Volt water heater.
Thermostats turn off one leg of the 240Volt circuit, so elements and themostats will always test for 120volts.
You removed wires off elements and tested each for continuity and tests showed elements to be good.
Test top two screws of upper thermostat and make sure you are getting 240V to the water heater.

If water heater has some hot water, then that says water heater is getting 240V, upper element is good, and remaining suspects are bad thermostats, bad lower element, or sediment build-up, or combination.

Open following link for troubleshoot run-down:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-water-heater.html

Water well.
If you have sediment build-up that reaches lower element, then water does not circulate around the element and water heater no longer heats very fast or accurately. If sediment is the problem, sooner or later the lower element will burn out.
Doesn't hurt to flush out the tank now and then, and vacuum out the sediment if that is problem.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Clean-sediment-out-of-water-heater.html
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No hot water power is on and is present at thermonstat. heating elements show continuity

Sounds like water heater is getting 120V but not 240V

You say there is no hot water inside the tank?
You have two elements, so tank is 240V.
Both elements test for continuity.

These three symptoms together imply that water is getting 120Volts instead of 240Volts.
Water heater appears to have electricity, but is receiving power from only one leg of the 240Volt circuit.

Open following link for troubleshoot of electricity to water heater.
http://waterheatertimer.org/Test-electricity-to-water-heater.html

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New water heater will not heat

Water heater has to be full of water before power is turned on or elements will burn out.
If upper element is burned out, then no hot water.
Lower element burned out, not much hot water.
If tank has 2 elements, it is 240V. Water heater circuit may not be delivering 240V. Test for 240V at connections.

Open following link for troubleshooting electric water heater.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-water-heater.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/Test-electricity-to-water-heater.html

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No hot or warm water what is the voltage reading susposed to be on the heating elements? I have 122 volts on each terminal on both elements but no action, what am i doing wrong?

If water is totally cold, then upper element is not getting 240V. Since element tested for 120V, then that says upper element is burned out, upper thermostat is bad, or circuit breaker is bad.
Best thing is to buy multimeter and do 30 minute troubleshoot:
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html

Also read information below for understanding how water heater works.

Testing elements for voltage can be misleading.
If water heater has 2 elements, then tank is 240Volts.
240V water heaters have 120V on each element at all times.
So elements have hot 120V power, but they are not turned on until the circuit is complete with 240V.
Open following links to read specifics about 120V and 240V
http://waterheatertimer.org/B220C.html
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-water-heater-thermostat-works.html

240V is made from two 120V Hot wires from breaker box.
Each 120V line from breaker is called a 'leg.'
So 240V circuit has two legs, and both legs need to be turned on to complete 240V circuit.

Water heater thermostats turn off only one leg.
The other leg is Hot all the time.
So when you test screws on an element, for example test between a screw and any bare metal part of tank, then the screw will always show 120V.
That is just one leg of the 240V circuit.
But the 240V circuit is not turned On until both legs are connected.
Every residential circuit needs two wires to complete the circuit, and in the case of 240V, those two wires are both 120V.

When the thermostat turns on, it turns on the second leg to the element and that completes the 240V circuit.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-it-works.html
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If I understand correctly, water heater is producing no hot water.
Reset button clicks in, but still no heat.

Three initial things can be causing this:
1) No power to water heater. Test across top two screws on upper thermostat for 240V. Red and black wire are attached to these screws. Screws are marked 1 and 3. Upper thermostat is same that has reset button. If power tests 120 across screws, then breaker may be off on one leg. If no power, then start testing at breaker.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-troubleshoot-electric-problems-with-water-heater.html

2) Upper thermostat is bad. Replace thermostat with generic upper thermostat available at hardware store.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-replace-thermostat-on-electric-water-heater.html

3) Upper element is bad. Test and replace element using Rheem 4500 watt element available at hardware store. Image shown below. Look at label on side of tank for element wattage. Rheem puts 4500 watt elements into all their 240V electric water heaters.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-to-test-water-heater-element.html

If upper element is burned out the tank will not heat any water.
http://waterheatertimer.org/How-it-works.html

Rheem 4500Watt element
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Upper thermostats are generic and interchangeable:
geno_3245_99.jpg
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Installed new upper & lower elements & thermostats, only top htr works

If original problem was caused by sediment burning out lower element, did you clean sediment out of water heater when changing lower element?
Two element water heaters are 240V.
Thermostats cut power on one hot wire, but 240V circuit has 2 hot wires. So lower element has power at all times coming from the red wire.
1) Use ordinary tester or multimeter set to 240V <> test each screw of lower element to bare metal part of water heater. Each screw should show 120V. If there is no power, then upper thermostat is defective, screw on upper thermostat is loose, or red wire between upper and lower parts of water heater is bad.
2) Remove wires from lower element. Use continuity tester or multimeter set to ohms <> test across both screws of element to see if power travels through element <> if element is bad, then continuity tester will not light up and multimeter will show no ohms. Put wires back on element after test.
3) Start with cold water in tank. Turn on water heater & upper element will turn on. Put ear on side of tank to hear if upper element is heating water. Test #3 screw to #2 screw on low left side of thermostat, should read 240V > Test #3 screw to #4 screw on low right side of thermostat, should read 0V.
Put ear on side of tank. When upper element turns off: Test #3 screw to #2 screw on low left side of thermostat, should read 0V > Test #3 screw to #4 screw on low right side of thermostat, should read 240V. If this test shows 0V and 0V, then upper thermostat is bad. If reading is correct, immediately move to next test.
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4) Turn temp on lower thermostat to 150. Using ordinary tester or multimeter set to 240V <> Test across both screws of lower element. If there is no reading, and you know element is good from step 2, then lower thermostat is bad, or wire is bad between lower element and lower thermostat, or wire is bad between lower thermostat and top part of heater.
5) Test across both lower thermostat screws, should read 240V.If this test is good, it means wires are good. Put jumper wire across both screws of lower thermostat, and test lower element again. If element finally turns on with jumper wire, then lower thermostat is bad.
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