I have used my new machine twice. Both times the bread pan pops out during kneading. I re-seat the pan and everything runs smoothly. Once the bread is done baking and I try to remove the bread pan I can't pull it out. I have tried bending the side clips and ultimately (with a lot of force) I just end up yanking the thing out. I am worried I am going to break the machine. Is this normal? The manual says I should be able to easily remove the pan. Is there something I am supposed to do before removing the bread pan?
I have Breadman Ultimate for over 12 years now. I make bread 2-3 times a week for the past 10 years. I found that the bread pan popping out only happens when the motor shaft and the kneading paddle are not tightly engaged. I find this problem in the following two scenarios: 1. The bread pan was not pushed down all the way as described by cassie_hobbs and tlcquiltnut. 2. Debris filled up the motor-shaft bowl underneath the bread pan to prevent a tight engagement of the motor shaft and the kneading paddle. These debris are generated during the kneading process; part of the ingredients is pushed out of the shallow horizontal pan and accumulated underneath. To avoid the problem, I have to periodically remove debris from the shaft bowl and make sure the pan pushed all the way down. To reduce the debris, I made a simple cover for the bread pan by cutting an old aluminum baking dish. I always remove the cover after the kneading cycle to prevent the rising dough from reaching the bottom of the cover. Hope this helps. Wendy
Recently my bread pan started twisting out of the metal clips especially on the right side. I pulled out on the clips which caused the pan to pop up entirely during kneading. I thought this would increase the tension holding the pan in, but it just made the problem worse. So, I pushed the clips inward toward the baking chamber walls. It seems to have solved the problem of the pan twisting out of the clips and jumping up. It's stayed in place so far for 2 loaves.
Another possible reason for this problem could be the same one we had with our machine . The shaft in the bottom of the pan was seizing up. It finally stopped completely last week when my wife was attempting to make bread. Fortunately we have another machine (actually 2), so we transferred the dough mixture to it and I proceeded to start hunting for a new pan. Took a bit of hunting, but I found that brand new pans can be ordered fron Fox Parts Store at foxpartstore.com or you can call them at 1-800-738-0245. the new pan is only $14.95 and free shipping!
This happened to me once on a very dense bread. I have discovered that when you put the pan in, there will be a second click. I have not had a problem since.
Another possibility is that the two prongs that couple the motor in the base with the rotor in the baking pan can slightly bend when kneading heavy breads. This slant can create a force that pushes the pan upward while kneading. This is the same principle as rotating a vertically mounted screw causes it moving up or down. A simple solution is to use pliers to slightly bend the prongs in the direction of rotation to make them exactly perpendicular to the rotation plane. The prongs should be visible when the baking pan is removed. There is a well in the center of the base and inside that well there is an S shaped blade mounted on the spindle of the motor, which the ends of the S bent at 90 degrees upward. Those two ends push the two arms of the rotor in the baking pan. You should first determine the direction of the rotation by starting the machine (it is clockwise in my machine), and then grab each upward end of the S-blade with pliers and bend it slightly in the SAME direction as the assembly rotates.
Another possibility is that the two prongs that couple the motor in the base with the rotor in the baking pan can slightly bend when kneading heavy breads. This slant can create a force that pushes the pan upward while kneading. This is the same principle as rotating a vertically mounted screw causes it moving up or down. A simple solution is to use pliers to slightly bend the prongs in the direction of rotation to make them exactly perpendicular to the rotation plane. The prongs should be visible when the baking pan is removed. There is a well in the center of the base and inside that well there is an S shaped blade mounted on the spindle of the motor, which the ends of the S bent at 90 degrees upward. Those two ends push the two arms of the rotor in the baking pan. You should first determine the direction of the rotation by starting the machine (it is clockwise in my machine), and then grab each upward end of the S-blade with pliers and bend it slightly in the SAME direction as the assembly rotates.
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Hello....I wrote this for those with bread pan problems....be sure to read the part about how to restore the "spring" of your bread pan clips...
Bread pan removal:
I am assuming you have the type of bread machine that has
the little metal spring clips inside the oven compartment. Before inserting the pan always check on the
bottom of the pan (underneath) to see how the impeller "T" is aligned and turn
it with your fingers or turne the paddle with your fingers so the "T" will fit
into the gaps of the impeller in the bottom of the oven. Once you have aligned them then place the
pan in the oven and "pop" push the pan in place so the spring clips grab the
matching clips on the sides of the pan.
Also look to see if your pan has the word "front" stenciled in the lip
edge of the pan. If so, be sure that edge is towards the front of
the machine. If your pan still won't pop into place when you
push down your spring clips may need to be gently pulled out because they can
become "slack" over time. Take the pan
out and reach in and pull each spring clip up until you start to feel it bend a
little and bend them out. Pop your pan into place and if the clips don's start
to grab your pan repeat the process of bending the clips out and repeat that
until they do. Summary:
1)
make sure if your pan is marked "front" that it is aligned
properly
2)
make sure the paddle and the T underneath the pan aren't in
conflict with the matching drive impeller in the bottom of the oven. Just turn the paddle so they are opposite of
each other and can engage
3)
Restore the "springiness" to your clips by bending them out
with your fingers. Be careful though because the spring edges are fine edges so
get underneath them when you pull up
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I ahve had the same problem but only with certain types of bread recipes. Usually the heavyier ryes. I also bent the side clips and seem to have found a reasonable position that is not too far up to make removal work OK. Trial and error, just like the breads!
I have had my Breadman Ultimate TR2200C for about 5 years and use it 1-2 times/week. Recently, the pan starts popping out during kneading and keeps popping out frequently. I practically have to stand and hold the pan in now. Can the clips be replaced or will I just have to figure out how to bend them?
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