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Furnace gas valve is not opening

Heating element heats up; cycles three times but gas valve does not open so furnace never heats up;

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YOUR FURNACE IS IN LOCKOUT MODE DUE TO A SAFETY FEATURE OF UNIT. USUALLY THE HIGH LIMIT HAS BEEN TRIPPED, OR YOU PRESSURE SWITCH FROM DRAFT INDUCER MOTOR FAULTY OR PLUGGED. IT WILL CONTINUE LOCKOUT MODE UNTIL THIS IS FIXED.

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Heating Mode (Goodman Service Manual)

· The furnace control checks for an open main limit (this
limit is normally closed). If the limit is open, the furnace
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an open limit the circulating air blower will be
energized. The status light will blink four (4) times.
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times and will remain inoperable until this situation is
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pressure in excess of its setting. If the pressure switch
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