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Tina Posted on May 29, 2017
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Temperature with my on demand water heater is inconsistent

When I turn the hot water faucet on in the kitchen, sometimes I get a "semi-decent" tempurature out of the hot side, but then other times, it won't get hot at all no matter how long I run the water. If I turn the faucet off and turn it right back on, it almost immediately gets to that "semi-decent" temperature. The hot water in the kitchen has never really been VERY HOT, and in fact in the bathroom, it would probably burn the skin of a sensitive person! HELP!!

  • Brent Michalski
    Brent Michalski May 29, 2017

    NEED SO INFOR
    - does it have a mixing valve
    -make of unit
    -model #
    -Serial number

    it is possible thermistor or mechanical sensing bulb is defective causing improper readings

  • Brent Michalski
    Brent Michalski May 29, 2017

    if its off a bosh it probably has a hot water sensor and the sensor will be able to be checked and tested by readings off the manufactures ohms chart to check and see if the sensor is communicating to the control board the right temperatures

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Have a plumber check the installation as it appears that there is a temp control mixer in the kitchen line that should be in the bathroom line
Many states and countries now have made it mandatory the full uncontrolled hot water cannot be used in a bath, shower, wash basin but has to limited to a max temp of 70 C to prevent burns to the skin

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Dec 26, 2008

SOURCE: running water in 2 sinks just to get hot water from a bosch

you can put in a circulatating pump that is controller with a timer and a thermostat so the when yo need heat water the most its readilly available and when you don't it's off, the only thinsg thing that you would have to do it tye in the supply and the return and then insulate the pipes.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Jan 25, 2009

SOURCE: Kitchen and bathroom faucets do not get hot,hot.Lukewarm at best.

ok the way it works man is the box aka power vent the gas valve wont open until the power vent is open u can manualy open the powervent witch will open the gas valve to turn on the piolt light and in about 30 sec the main burner will kick on now if the powervent is opening the the pilot light isnt lighting then u need to replace the thurmole cuple witch sences the pilot light is on if it doesnt see the pilot the it shuts the gas valve off so it doesnt fill ur house with gas

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Anonymous

  • Posted on Jul 24, 2011

SOURCE: Hi, I have the 1600 NG

http://waterheatertimer.org/Troubleshoot-Bosch-Tankless-water-heater.html#flow
1) Tankless require minimum flow rate before burner will activate.
2) Sounds like the water pressure drops quickly when faucet turns on. This implies combination of problems including sediment build up inside lines, crossover at single-handled faucet, or sediment filter clogged or water softener clogged.
3) Low flow faucets can reduce needed flow rate.
4) Other problems can contribute: sensor failure, loose wires, PC board failure, high temperature setting, cold incoming water temperature during winter months.

Michael Stokes

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  • Posted on Aug 29, 2011

SOURCE: we have a bosch tankless water heater in a 1600 sq

Since you have hot water at all the other fixtures, the problem lies in the sink, not the water heater. It could be that the sink is farther away from the water heater than the other fixtures. It would take longer to get hot water.

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