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My well water pump is short-cycling & shuts off due to overheating. Any ideas??

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If it is short cycling the tank is probably water logged and needs to have the empty air level set. Basically that means drain the tank (pump off first of course) then check the air in the bladder. Should be a couple pounds less than the low cut in setting of the pumps pressure switch. This should let the pump rest between cycles and stop the overheating. If it still overheats you have a failing pump and will need to replace it or rebuild it.

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SOURCE: I can hear water surge

If it is taking longer than normal to build pressure at the pump and the check valve is good, the pump may be sucking some air, consequently the sound. This could be caused by problem with well and/or pump impeller. I would double check that check valve, it may be bad.
Let us know how else we can help,
RJ

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If the pump is failing to shut off then there is something wrong with the electronics. If your washer is a mechanical timer controlled device then you may have a sticking switch (which may explain if switching cycles does something for you). But if you have an electronic timer then you may be experiencing a board failure, where a cycle is being commanded when it is not intended to by design.


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Modern washing machines should be sophisticated enough to realize something's wrong and abort with an error, but if not, it may continue washing or rinsing for a short while before losing enough water to trigger more coming in again. It can get stuck on this cycle indefinitely and it's called siphoning.
Siphoning occurs when the end of the drain hose is lower than the level of the water inside the washing machine.
Try raising the hose and see what happens.
Also the drain hose should have some type of air gap where it fits into the stand pipe. It should not have an air tight fit.

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