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Anonymous Posted on Mar 14, 2017

I am replacing a magnetron in a Whirlpool gm8155XJB-0 microwave. The schematic does not differentiate between the F and FA terminal connections. It only shows the filament connections without labels. The original magnetron was connected with the F terminal connected to the high voltage diode side of HV cap. This is inconsistent with every microwave connection diagram I can find on the web in that they all say/show the HV diode should be connected to the FA terminal. This was driving me crazy so I purchased the Whirlpool maintenance manual online. While it does not have any verbiage about this, it does have a picture that shows the two wire side of the connector going to the F terminal. I have a new (cross referenced) magnetron on the way. My inclination is to hook it up as the original. Is there any risk of have these connections crossed?

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Poring over a few schematics, I see them connected both ways.

One one hand, microwave technology guru J. Carlton Gallawa says that it matters to achieve proper phasing (http://www.microtechfactoryservice.com/Ch7Pg6.html), but he does not explain what the abbreviations mean or what the standard is for connecting them!

I'm an electronics engineering technician and microwave servicer with over 30 years of experience, and it seems pretty obvious to me that "F" would stand for "filament" and "FA" stands for "filament, anode."

So I would connect to the "F" terminal the transformer filament lead which has nothing else attached to it.

I would attach to the "FA" terminal the other filament lead, which is also attached to the downstream side of the high voltage capacitor and to the "anode" of the high voltage rectifier diode.

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  • Posted on May 12, 2007

SOURCE: Fuse is always blown

Thank you very much for your hint. I changed the transformer and it works now. I feel happy when the problem solved by my hand with your great help. You are really very good expert in both theory and practice. Best regards, Cuoitoet

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William Miller

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  • Posted on Jul 12, 2008

SOURCE: Microwave - no heat

The filament reading sounds fine.

Here are some links you or someone you know can use for test help, but read their safety warnings first:

http://www.gallawa.com/microtech/mag_test.html
http://www.gallawa.com/microtech/xformer.html

Many brands have a "mini-manual" hidden inside the unit behind the control panel or hidden on the left side behind the grille, which is very helpful when troubleshooting & testing.

Please reply back with your brand and model number if you need further help.

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Anonymous

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  • Posted on Oct 23, 2008

SOURCE: LG MS-2143RSL MICROWAVE OVENT NO HEAT

hi i am suggesting that it is probably the magy as the res to grndis a bit low and therefore loading the sec supply down , just a thought
cheers grant

KeithGP

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  • Posted on Dec 01, 2008

SOURCE: New GE Magnetron. Where does this new HV diode go?

Fixed it. There was a back capacitor fuse (I believe that's what it's called) on the old magnetron. I removed it and put it on the new magnetron. The HV diode is on the big silver capacitor and very easy to replace. I just didn't see it. It was definitely the magnetron and I hope that this new one comes with a warranty for 5 more years.

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  • Posted on Feb 01, 2011

SOURCE: Magnetron will not run. I

You have replaced all those and still no go, well, In that case the main controller board is most likely faulty too. This is common, for the controller board and or power supply has been spiked.

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The unit is two years old but has never ben used. It "runs" but doesn't heat anything.

It's most likely a defective magnetron or a bad connection at the magnetron terminal.

The GE bulletin on the magnetron kit can be found here to see if yours is one affected:
http://www.microwavedisplay.com/ge_mw_mag_kit_bulletin.pdf
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