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I'm re-wiring a light fixture in our kitchen - went to shut-off the breaker and found that none of the breaker switches shut-off that circuit? When I shut-off the main breaker,it shut-off the circuit? How can the circuit not have a breaker,but be wired into the main box/breaker? Help!!!

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It is probably attached to something. Have you turned the light on and then just started flipping breakers to see which one it is? Then at least you'll know. Unless the person had no clue what they were doing in your house it should be on a breaker somewhere it just may not be documented in the box anywhere. Try it and let me know. If that doesn't work I'll help you trouble shoot it.

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When you shut off the main breaker it should shut off the circuit. However every circuit should have a breaker. Bad wiring. Call an electrician let him take a look

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